The Cobalt SS is no more...
04-15-2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Honda Tech
have u been in a car with vtec before, and not just a single cam??? or are u afraid of cooties? 
anyways, like I said u defend cavies the same way. and we all know they're . oh and just for your info, not only honda has variable valve timing. there is toyota, nissan, and now even your precious GM is making their own abomination of it. although its horribly and fearfully low tech and near useless and is used in a pushrod motor, it is still vvt.
anyways, like I said u defend cavies the same way. and we all know they're . oh and just for your info, not only honda has variable valve timing. there is toyota, nissan, and now even your precious GM is making their own abomination of it. although its horribly and fearfully low tech and near useless and is used in a pushrod motor, it is still vvt.
by the way, how were the oil changes, tire rotations and lube jobs today
did the real mechanics let you eat at their table for lunch.
04-16-2006, 02:55 AM
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ahhhhhh i miss those old days when all the hotrods sounded so loud and rude haha, those were the days, i gotta admit that gm did a pretty bad job with the cobolt ss, it looks....aaaaaeeeeee, cant really describe it, it's one of those hate of love cars, and there's a couple of SS in McMaster, saw them in the parking lot, wasnt too impressed with the design, seen them on the road, looks pretty mean and fast though, but soundwise, u cant beat an american muscle, mean lean oil burning machine that sounds like a godzilla! gm did build awesome cars, it's too bad that they didnt realize that the japanese were catching up that quickly, and now gm is losing the race, the colbolt with ss is just a last scream before death to prove something i guess lol. my 2 cents, plz dont diss me lol.
04-16-2006, 02:30 PM
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Common now guys. . . enough is enough!!! If you want a car that rattles over ever bump, has plastic snap together parts, uneven body lines, nice coushy and lofty suspension, multi coloured dashboards, then the Cobolt SS is for you. But to own a prestigious Cobolt SS first you have to pass the test.
1. Are you too stupid to know when to change your oil?
2. Are you too stupid to goto a real audio shop and purchase real audio equipment for your car?
3. Are you uninspired by performance modifications?
4. Do you like to goto the dealer as often as possible for service on your car?
5. Do you like the idea of scraping your car after 200,000km of use?
If you answered yes to any of these questions then the Chevorlet Cobolt SS is the perfect car for you!!!
Being in the automotive industry let me just state some facts. Toyota will infact be the Largest car manufacturer in the world soon, if GM does not come out with anything REMOTELY new or innovative there gonna find themselves falling straight to the bottom, no in between or middle. These are facts.
Although i don't own a civic, i have 2 honda's. I'd rather drive a 91 Civic CX over a 2006 Cobolt SS anyday of the week just knowing i could trust my car to get me where i want to go trouble free. There is no car Detroit can make that Japan doesn't have an answer too.
1. Are you too stupid to know when to change your oil?
2. Are you too stupid to goto a real audio shop and purchase real audio equipment for your car?
3. Are you uninspired by performance modifications?
4. Do you like to goto the dealer as often as possible for service on your car?
5. Do you like the idea of scraping your car after 200,000km of use?
If you answered yes to any of these questions then the Chevorlet Cobolt SS is the perfect car for you!!!
Being in the automotive industry let me just state some facts. Toyota will infact be the Largest car manufacturer in the world soon, if GM does not come out with anything REMOTELY new or innovative there gonna find themselves falling straight to the bottom, no in between or middle. These are facts.
Although i don't own a civic, i have 2 honda's. I'd rather drive a 91 Civic CX over a 2006 Cobolt SS anyday of the week just knowing i could trust my car to get me where i want to go trouble free. There is no car Detroit can make that Japan doesn't have an answer too.
Last edited by 1sykcord; 04-16-2006 at 05:08 PM.
04-16-2006, 06:12 PM
#36
Originally Posted by StealthZ
thats whats funny about you honda guys, you never mention torque. poor poor honda, will never know what its like to have some.
go honda?
go honda?
Funny enough, i was just going to comment on the increase of TQ mind you...
Good call StealthZ
04-20-2006, 05:31 PM
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Although i don't own a civic, i have 2 honda's. I'd rather drive a 91 Civic CX over a 2006 Cobolt SS anyday of the week just knowing i could trust my car to get me where i want to go trouble free. There is no car Detroit can make that Japan doesn't have an answer too.
if you like to drive a car thats made from recycled pop cans go ahead and drive that pos honda. And if you like to drive a car that has the same amount of torque as the alternator makes go ahead and drive an import.
if you like to drive a car thats made from recycled pop cans go ahead and drive that pos honda. And if you like to drive a car that has the same amount of torque as the alternator makes go ahead and drive an import.
04-20-2006, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1 quick_hatch
if you like to drive a car thats made from recycled pop cans go ahead and drive that pos honda. And if you like to drive a car that has the same amount of torque as the alternator makes go ahead and drive an import.
04-20-2006, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1sykcord
speak for yourself. My car makes 200HP and 195ft/lbs of torque. . . stock. its not a corvette, but it does make a little more torque then the alternator.
ur missing the point. now stfu and back to the corner.
04-20-2006, 11:07 PM
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You import guys are just pissed that chevy has put out a superior nice looking well built car. With the ability to make power easily cobalts and pursuits are everywhere now and are selling well. What does japan have to offer in the muslce car-remake craze? **** all.. Because there is no such thing as a japanese antique. Go drive your box honda from the 80s nobody gives a **** if you'd drive a heap of steaming over a brand new cobalt ss. Thats your loss. Remeber the quad 4 H.O putting out 190hp N/A IN THE LATE 80S out of a 2L MOTOR.
Looks pretty damn good to me. As well as the touch and feel of materals have gained alote of new found respect in the biased car magazine world. But hey we all know 80s fisher price honda materials are better. If the cobalt rolled off the assembly line with a big H on the grill you all would praise it. People like you argue that toyota cavaliers are more relaible then the chevrolet models.
Looks pretty damn good to me. As well as the touch and feel of materals have gained alote of new found respect in the biased car magazine world. But hey we all know 80s fisher price honda materials are better. If the cobalt rolled off the assembly line with a big H on the grill you all would praise it. People like you argue that toyota cavaliers are more relaible then the chevrolet models.
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04-20-2006, 11:20 PM
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The guts of the Cobalt SS are what matter here, rather than the car’s pubescent ‘Hey, look at me’ F-16 fighter jet rear wing, fancy 18-inch rims, and sunburned-tourist-red paintwork.
The motor is based on GM’s free-spinning, lightweight Ecotec 2.0-liter twin-cam 16-valve four-banger that’s been heavily massaged by the petrolheads at GM’s Performance Division. Bolted to it is an Eaton M62 Roots-type supercharger coupled to an air-to-water intercooler. Blowing at 12 psi, it increases the ponies to 205hp at 5600rpm and delivers 200 lb-ft of twist at 4400rpm.
Internally, the motor gets all the right go-faster hardware; a forged steel crank, sodium-filled exhaust valves, oil-jet cooling for the pistons and a separate oil cooler.
Light the fuse, stomp on the gas and the Cobalt rips from rest to 60 in an impressive 5.9 seconds and spears through the quarter-mile in under 14 seconds.
It’s a peach of a motor. Its featherweight flywheel lets the revs zing to the 6500rpm red-line with Black & Decker smoothness, while the robust internals allow them to stay there without the motor sounding like it’s about replicate Hiroshima circa. August 1945.
And the beauty here is the bucketfuls of torque the little four-cylinder cranks out. Even in fifth from walking pace, the motor will pull like an Amtrak loco.
The motor’s mated to a 5-speed manual transmission that’s the same unit Saab fits to its 9-3. Chevy shortened the shifter throws by four inches to give a sportier feel and it’s better for it. While it’s nowhere near as sweet as the 6-speeder that Acura fits to its RSX, it’s still pretty good
Now, even a third-grade student with the technical expertise of an ant will tell you that 200 lb-ft of torque and front-wheel drive is a recipe for torque-steer hell. Which is why the SS is offered with that doyen of the tuner market, a Quaife limited-slip diff. Sadly it’s a $1,500 option, though it’s part of a performance package that includes Recaro front bucket seats. But no Cobalt should be unleashed without it.
Quaife-equipped, the coupe-bodied SS is one of the finest handling small cars out there. Period. The diff works in tandem with a modified suspension setup that’s been honed at no less a place than the tortuous Nurburgring track in Germany.
Added to the standard Cobalt setup are stiffer springs, a wrist-thick front anti-roll bar, unique valving for the struts, and bigger brakes with performance linings. The standard electric-assist rack and pinion steering was also recalibrated to keep effort low and precision high.
Tight, fast curves are best tackled with the slow-in, fast-out approach, otherwise tire-wailing understeer is the order of the day. But the all-disc setup allows you to brake way-late into the corner, then it’s simply a matter of getting back on the gas and letting the oodles of torque fire you out. It’s a barrel-load of fun.
And with 215/54-section Pirelli PZero rubberware at each corner, mounted on extremely cool-looking 18-inch rims, there’s no shortage of grip.
Low-profile tires and tight, taut suspension don’t usually provide a smooth ride. But the Cobalt won’t loosen your dentalwork when the blacktop gets brittle. Yes, the ride is firm but never uncomfortable.
Inside, the cabin is a mix of the good, bad and the ugly. But it’s mostly good. Like the salami-thick steering wheel with its useful spoke-mounted controls. Ditto the easy-to-read, pizza-sized dials with their upscale chrome rings. And you’ll love watching the boost gauge on the left A-pillar twitch in time with the blower.
Full marks too for including a stereo system that wouldn’t sound out of place at your local rave. Crank up the watts and the pulsating, trunk-mounted Pioneer sub-woofer can actually re-froth a Starbucks cappuccino.
But some of the plastics feel as hard and brittle as a cafeteria dinner tray, and just as visually appealing. And the optional two-tone leather, where the door panels and seat centers mimic the body color, is about as subtle as Courtney Love.
As for that trunk-mounted rear wing, you could lose sight of a Mack truck back there. I spent every driving moment terrified that the black blob masked by the wing was a police cruiser about to light up. Memo to Chevy: make it a delete option, or offer free bail money.
And for a $22-grand car, it’s cheap beyond belief not to fit a remote-release fuel flap to protect your tankful of unleaded. Or a 50-cent lock for the glove box.
That said, there’s a whole lot to love about this hi-po Chevy. Next to the ’Vette, I reckon it’s the most fun-driving GM product out there. Yes, you’ve got to spend around $24-grand to spec it the way you’d want, but even then it still offers a lot of a bang for your buck.
The motor is based on GM’s free-spinning, lightweight Ecotec 2.0-liter twin-cam 16-valve four-banger that’s been heavily massaged by the petrolheads at GM’s Performance Division. Bolted to it is an Eaton M62 Roots-type supercharger coupled to an air-to-water intercooler. Blowing at 12 psi, it increases the ponies to 205hp at 5600rpm and delivers 200 lb-ft of twist at 4400rpm.
Internally, the motor gets all the right go-faster hardware; a forged steel crank, sodium-filled exhaust valves, oil-jet cooling for the pistons and a separate oil cooler.
Light the fuse, stomp on the gas and the Cobalt rips from rest to 60 in an impressive 5.9 seconds and spears through the quarter-mile in under 14 seconds.
It’s a peach of a motor. Its featherweight flywheel lets the revs zing to the 6500rpm red-line with Black & Decker smoothness, while the robust internals allow them to stay there without the motor sounding like it’s about replicate Hiroshima circa. August 1945.
And the beauty here is the bucketfuls of torque the little four-cylinder cranks out. Even in fifth from walking pace, the motor will pull like an Amtrak loco.
The motor’s mated to a 5-speed manual transmission that’s the same unit Saab fits to its 9-3. Chevy shortened the shifter throws by four inches to give a sportier feel and it’s better for it. While it’s nowhere near as sweet as the 6-speeder that Acura fits to its RSX, it’s still pretty good
Now, even a third-grade student with the technical expertise of an ant will tell you that 200 lb-ft of torque and front-wheel drive is a recipe for torque-steer hell. Which is why the SS is offered with that doyen of the tuner market, a Quaife limited-slip diff. Sadly it’s a $1,500 option, though it’s part of a performance package that includes Recaro front bucket seats. But no Cobalt should be unleashed without it.
Quaife-equipped, the coupe-bodied SS is one of the finest handling small cars out there. Period. The diff works in tandem with a modified suspension setup that’s been honed at no less a place than the tortuous Nurburgring track in Germany.
Added to the standard Cobalt setup are stiffer springs, a wrist-thick front anti-roll bar, unique valving for the struts, and bigger brakes with performance linings. The standard electric-assist rack and pinion steering was also recalibrated to keep effort low and precision high.
Tight, fast curves are best tackled with the slow-in, fast-out approach, otherwise tire-wailing understeer is the order of the day. But the all-disc setup allows you to brake way-late into the corner, then it’s simply a matter of getting back on the gas and letting the oodles of torque fire you out. It’s a barrel-load of fun.
And with 215/54-section Pirelli PZero rubberware at each corner, mounted on extremely cool-looking 18-inch rims, there’s no shortage of grip.
Low-profile tires and tight, taut suspension don’t usually provide a smooth ride. But the Cobalt won’t loosen your dentalwork when the blacktop gets brittle. Yes, the ride is firm but never uncomfortable.
Inside, the cabin is a mix of the good, bad and the ugly. But it’s mostly good. Like the salami-thick steering wheel with its useful spoke-mounted controls. Ditto the easy-to-read, pizza-sized dials with their upscale chrome rings. And you’ll love watching the boost gauge on the left A-pillar twitch in time with the blower.
Full marks too for including a stereo system that wouldn’t sound out of place at your local rave. Crank up the watts and the pulsating, trunk-mounted Pioneer sub-woofer can actually re-froth a Starbucks cappuccino.
But some of the plastics feel as hard and brittle as a cafeteria dinner tray, and just as visually appealing. And the optional two-tone leather, where the door panels and seat centers mimic the body color, is about as subtle as Courtney Love.
As for that trunk-mounted rear wing, you could lose sight of a Mack truck back there. I spent every driving moment terrified that the black blob masked by the wing was a police cruiser about to light up. Memo to Chevy: make it a delete option, or offer free bail money.
And for a $22-grand car, it’s cheap beyond belief not to fit a remote-release fuel flap to protect your tankful of unleaded. Or a 50-cent lock for the glove box.
That said, there’s a whole lot to love about this hi-po Chevy. Next to the ’Vette, I reckon it’s the most fun-driving GM product out there. Yes, you’ve got to spend around $24-grand to spec it the way you’d want, but even then it still offers a lot of a bang for your buck.
04-21-2006, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nastyzed
You import guys are just pissed that chevy has put out a superior nice looking well built car. With the ability to make power easily cobalts and pursuits are everywhere now and are selling well. What does japan have to offer in the muslce car-remake craze? **** all.. Because there is no such thing as a japanese antique. Go drive your box honda from the 80s nobody gives a **** if you'd drive a heap of steaming over a brand new cobalt ss. Thats your loss. Remeber the quad 4 H.O putting out 190hp N/A IN THE LATE 80S out of a 2L MOTOR.
Looks pretty damn good to me. As well as the touch and feel of materals have gained alote of new found respect in the biased car magazine world. But hey we all know 80s fisher price honda materials are better. If the cobalt rolled off the assembly line with a big H on the grill you all would praise it. People like you argue that toyota cavaliers are more relaible then the chevrolet models.
Looks pretty damn good to me. As well as the touch and feel of materals have gained alote of new found respect in the biased car magazine world. But hey we all know 80s fisher price honda materials are better. If the cobalt rolled off the assembly line with a big H on the grill you all would praise it. People like you argue that toyota cavaliers are more relaible then the chevrolet models.