Nope, dsm's are not light at all. but my point is weight of a car and the power it produces all work together in a power to weight ratio formula. a 4000lb mustang with 600hp agaist a 2000lb civic with 300hp, (just an example no need to blaber about it) the civic wont exactly smoke the mustang,or will the mustang smoke the civic. people dont take this kind of stuff into consideration. the size of a cars engine really dosent mean much. and lets not be geating into gear ratio, i dont think some people can handle that here.
Marko

Yes Hickfarmer, power to weight ratio is very important in racing, as are suspension, traction, gearing, lots of variables. Its all good.

We are all car enthusiasts here, and everyone loves their baby. I personally love rear wheel drive cars, they to me are just so much more fun. But to each his own.

I don't even remeber what the original point was anymore!

I agree with you, the AWDs are not light cars. Stock they weigh in at just over 3100lbs. Mine is closer to 3000lbs with me in it. I've pulled a new Z06(505hp version) on the highway before from a roll. He had intake, headers, and exaust with 3"cats. He had ran an 11.8 before the headers. He was really impressed and did not expect it at all. Same result 5 times in a row. He would pull a car on me instantly in 3rd while I was spooling, and then I'd reel him in and pass him before the top of 4th. Now if he can't catch me from a roll, he would've got raped out the hole :smilie_da . One thing I did realize running him is that I definatly need better brakes. He could stop WAYYY harder then me. I love those vettes, mean as hell. :smilie_da

If you smoked a C6Z, you earned my respect. Good work!! Like I said, DSMs can be mde kiler fast.

I still wanna trade my C6 in for a new ZO6, or better yet the upcoming Blue Devil... sometime in the future tho... A twin turbo ZO6, like sex on wheels!!!

I wouldn't go as far as saying I smoked him, but I was a touch faster uptop. Thanks, I have all the respect in the world for those cars, and would trade my POS in a heartbeat for one. And your definatly right tho, a TT Z06 IS sex on wheels.

CanadianCharger how are you producing 680whp? A DSM will piss on you...DSM> R. Kelly. You > 16 yr old girl.

Seb

hahahahahah^^

guys u are arguin with a kid, who's dad just baught a charger with HEMI BRO DUDE SICK, and then he wanted to act big so he researched a company that makes parts for the car...

THEN he goes to say he makes 680 hp, perfectly rounded number of course, and no dyno sheets vids or pics...

just my guess

anyone whos races off iights is gay...save your money fassys

I'd be willing to wager the same thing.

That explains it all!

And do you know how stupid it is that you're calling DSMonster a "rice burner". You do realize your car was made by the people that made his car right?

Im pretty sure that a civic would not touch a mustang cobra at all it mite keep up for the first 10 feet then get killed...I ride in a 2003 mach 1 everday to work and that car can cut the wheels loose in all 5 gears when he puts it to the floor...

um mm guess your not sure enuff b/c ...i did :smile: ....mind u im not factory...
stock yes will get killed....but good oh honda nation helps brothers out;)
and who keeps them oem nasty slow

APC helps brothers out too

thats y its hard to differentiate on whos fast and whos not

ahhahaa dAts tru i hate apc over board extreme stuff

My car does 2000km/h so you can have all the hrp you can imagine.

And yes I did come with video footage of my drive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cGEvhsm_s

NO cops around? don't want pops to ground u for getting pulled over?:hitwithro

P.S. I have a 92 dx hatch w/d15b7....its slower than your brick but fun for me to drive all day and still have gas in the tank....would u smoke me? yes....but that doesnt help the fact that you are so far unable to back up whatever the hell cockamaimie story u put out. Plus that video proves I see and hear guaranteed.

And according to youtube you're 40.....40!!!!! and this is how you prove you're a man????? U have a life?????:stroke:

And notice how the name of the youtuber is Zakk...and the video says Marks RT Charger....if your name ain't Mark Zakk or Zakk Mark...you're bullshitting.
And in one of those clips the drivers says a tidbit and does not sound like a 40 year old.

Summary - Prove your and then talk smack.

:why:

:owned:

P.S - If you're gonna prove your name is Zakk Mark or Mark Zakk, you're gonna have to show a birth certificate NOT a Word Document or video of a Word Document:nono:

damn you bet me to it, lol i was hoping no one else would have caught on to it before i had a chance to make fun of this puke, lol

tell you what charger fairy, ill race you, its gonna cost you a grand though and ill need 2 weeks notice to give to the place thats storing my car. im in the niagara region and ill meet you halfway. 1 grand, street tire and a couple people with a camera to verify you getting pumped. hows that sound?

roflmao!:haha:

See it's a resonator not a muffler. Re-so-na-tor....Re-so-nate....sound....no power boost either way:retard:

P.S. judgez24 is callin you out if you don't figure that one out ok chief.

regardless of what it is the exhaust tip is gonna bottle neck the exhaust enough that any kind of free flowing he has will be useless at that point. and as we all know a 680 whp car cant breathe through an exhaust that puney

i watched the vid and its not impressive at all. man i hope your not pushign that car off as your own and if you are i really hope that you werent running more than half throttle, because if you were thats pathetic.

Holy ****.

This has got to be the STUPIDEST EVER.

That video... that video... please.. PLEASE!

It's a joke right......



p.s. I'm gonna go video tape the grass grow now

hey we've got supercharged grass over at my place, we'll sprinkle some c12 on it or maybe some meth and watch it grow real fast, 680 hp fast

gotta love the flame from that exhaust ahah

but either way ... i still dont understand why people have 2 moan & complain about other peoples stuff ... like serious are you people just jealous of the facts posted & cant comprehend the fact that it might have happened ?...

get with it guys & stop your bullshattin & just grow up ... im not trying to over power anyone or speak my mouth off but hoenstly the people who start thethread so what ... they have thoughts & dreams & perhaps what they say is true ... maybe what they say is true but nothing can be proven unless viewed right ... even still whatever people say if you dont wanan believe it ... her is an option.. move on with life & go to the next thread!

thing is people claim to have alot of things and are often caught in their lies. others volunteer to go after them and try to either proove the lies and proove everyone else wrong. in this case i would have loved to have been proven wrong like everyone else becaues a new charger that fast is pretty bad ass.

for the civic vs mustang thing, people dont get the fact that a light little car will hang with a more powerful heavier car. and everyone with a civic has some sort of swap these days.

fair enough ... well spoken ... & yea with the swaps & such these days ... also being a lighter car anything is possible in the end i suppose !

yup. the only downside to these little fwd cars is once you start making power trying to put it to the ground

it actually doesn't cost that much to make a civic smoke a cobra. i'm not saying that your friend's mach 1 isn't fast but why is it so hard to believe that a civic could smoke that stang. stock stangs are slow. most stock cars are slow.My friends h22 all motor civic would beat that stang and thats just with a few bolt ons.

yup my car with no tune running pig rich at only 10 pounds took apart stangs pretty good

You and your buddy know nothing about anything....
1ST OFF YOU KEEP SAYING SUPERCHARGE THE COBRA....
**** FACE ITS SUPERCHARGED FROM FACTORY....YOU DID NOT RACE A COBRA THATS FACT #1.
FACT #2 - YOUR LIL "DISCOVERY CHANNEL" RACE CIVIC is a POS and it was either a v6 stang or a v8 FACTORY MUSTANG "TOYING WITH YOU" you know make you feel big...
FACT#3 - how many times can some of you idiots driving these riced out shitboxes get played by the same game....if someone with a pretty serious car wants to race for fun cuz u got a big ego and loses to you by a car or two and the comes back to you saying lets run again for a lil bit of coin to make it interesting...ITS A SHARK MOVE...and alot of you fall for it and pay for it in the end...its funny how this time he beats you by half the ****ing 1/4 mile....^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS STORY RESEMBLES MOST IDIOTS BOASTING BOUT THIS HONDA IS GOD BLAH BLAH THERES NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT and believe me if a guy built a car right you cant always tell by sound and looks and this and that blah blah....be more knowledgable and stop making yourselves look so ****ing ignorant and stupid...

WHA????

You should never mix crack and meth buddy.

Seb

hey numbnuts, the 2001 cobra didnt come blown from factory, its was n.a. thanks for coming out :D

My mistake i thought the s'c was the only engine available in the 01' n up cobras my mistake 320 hp starting to believe its possible what a POS to slap a cobra badge on kindda like the MACH1 edition of those years all it was was a ram air 289 motor...whoopi....Spanked like the rest...


And mister shoots fire out his hole...careful talking big talk you head might crack with that weak as motor you got in that cav...It was an honest mistake...go get laid or something and take some time off from beating your meat to the computer screen

hah your so silly sally. weak motor, lol, for 8500 dollars the bitch better not be weak, lol. thanks for coming out :)

oh and a little knowledge for you as you have no idea what your talking about. the twin cam isnt prone to head crack, its the quad4 your thinking of, the twincam is prone to spinning the number 3 bearing thanks to a weak oiling system that supplys oil to number 3 last. but you knew that.

have a nice day :)

your worse than the honda guys swapping motors sinking 8500 into a 400 dollar car...

god i wish my car was worth 400 dollars. could be worse, i could be driving a family sedan that might hit mid 13's manu shifting the auto hoping the tranny doesnt start spinning only tire. lol

sally you get so bent out of shape, i even put a smiley face at the end of my first reply to you to show you i was ****ing around with you. of course if youd like, id love to take on your granny car with my worse than honda 400 dollar beater and show you just how tiny the tail lights get when i put my foot down half way ;) hehe

and who said anything about swapping the motor in the car? i simply invested some money into the stock motor. do your research before you try and put me down sally, the 97 cavalier came with a 2.4 liter twincam motor, my car hsa, a 2.4 liter twincam motor.

and we all invest omney into what we like, hell yo umight think im crazy for putting money into a cavalier, i might think your crazy sinking money into your grandfathers oldsmobile but you dont hear me crying about it

grandfathers oldsmobile HAHAHAHHAHA

Back to grade school I SAID YOUR NO BETTER THEN THE HONDA GUYS SWAPPING MOTORS...EX. 91 EF $100 B18C5 SWAP $4000 ...getting my drift

Speaking bout my olds....ha that thing is a daily driver...and is fast for what it is...let's see im a 20 yr old with a beatiful black LSS, 94 SUBURBAN MINT AND DECKED OUT, and a 79 STREET DEMON IN PROGRESS CAMARO...when the motors ready to go in and is done tuning...ill race your 8500 cav but bring more money than the cars worth i dont need that heep in my fleet....have a nice day....:smilie_da :smilie_da :loser: << see tension breaker

btw that video charger guy posted is at bathurst/sheppard

I even think i saw him couple of times there. not sure.

what am i racing your heavy boat camaro? lol, lets put it this way, camaro weighs a shitload more than my little shoeboxdoes, meaning that your gonna have to make some big power to keep up to me let alone beat me ;) so dont forget to figure out your power to weight ratio before bringing your money, lol.

and i f you wanna get technically ive had the little car since it was 2 years old, so its not like i just decided to buy an older econo box and feed some money into it.

but hey bring your camaro if you ever get it finished and ill glady empty your pockets for you :)

and we've all got our toys, my dd is a 1990 z71 thats mint, an 87 toyota on 35's that i wheel and then my car. we drive what we like, hell i could have baught a vette and sprayed it but whats worse to loose to, a cavalier or a vette, lol