i wanna know wtf ur friends civic had in it... any single cam honda motor would of been eaten up even by a v6 mustang. if it was indeed a cobra u'd need around 180 to the wheels to take it that easily... and dont rip on me guys im all about imports! it just sounds fishy...

I gave you respect on doing something others dont expect a long time ago, along with your off roading pics...real nice not my thing but definately a fun sport...z71 nice too bad it isnt the short-box regular cab ss of the 90 nice truck for what it was....Not to be rude but you wont come close to the camaro so save yourself the embarrassment now i give you credit where credit is due but please ill be spraying almost as much as you put down to the ground....
4000 lb 3000 stall TH400 4.10 Drag radials and one MEAN 383 bored stroker with some serious goodies inside and out... not to mention the suspension is also built right...so definately we'll all meet when the cars ready and if you still wanna put money down worth my while ill even treat you to a beer afterwards to settle that foul taste you'll have when you eat your words

well heres the thing, first off im having fun with you, as i said in a previous post. secondly youve got no idea what the little red car is capable of so saying youll spray close to what ill be putting to the ground is a very big leap :) but 2700 pounds with me in it vs 4000 pounds with alot of work, well you never know right, you need 130 more hp than i do just to be up there with me, but hey, in this world anything is possiblke and 8500 dollars spent right will take you quite a long way. thats not including the other goodies that have gone into the car, thats just the motor :)

for my truck, the only thing about it id change would be to make it a step side but thats hard to find, but mines a reg cab short box, black in color with a roof level cap. the truck actually looks really sharp. il ltake a pic of it for you when the weather stops being gay and i get to wash it again. no point in taking a pic of it half black and half salt white, lol. wouldnt have minded the ss but hey i got a good deal on this and ive already been offered much more than i payed for it so i must have done something right. mind you if i had my choice i would have baught a 1 ton diesel in this body style butagain, hard to find and these trucks hold their value like no bodys business

tell you what, add me to msn and we'll talk more there, turbocav@hotmail.com, im gone in about 15 minutes until sunday so ill talk to you some more then.

79Camaro, I've seen Judge Beat Some pretty Serious Rides before and I wouldn't take his car lightly just because he's decided to use a J body as a platform.

I think the only reason he's done that is to make people feel that much worse that they got beat by a Cavalier.

Race him . You'll have fun. :smilie_da

I hope I am there to see it.

in all honesty whats it run maybe a mid to low 12's if thats the case i dont need the bottle to give it 5-6 cars.... on the motor i will exceed 500 WHP now add a 250-300 nx plate shot on that and you get....

A WHOLE LOTTA ASS WHOOPING...

So...its being built as a lil toy weekend car for fun cruise nights etc...

Most of the work is being done....motors prepped bored blah blah
Im looking for someone good to do my rotating assembly balancing
i have the heads and most of my fuel setup

I have a built TH400 W/ 3000 STALL
Built POSI 10 BOLT 4:10 gears
Decent suspension
70:30 Lakewood shocks and swaybar front suspension
Bolt on Welded subframe connectors
"Urethane" body and chassis mounts
Comp Engineering Slide-a-link Traction bar set up
50-50 rear shocks
beefed leafsprings
rear sway bar
New Shaft and linkages
axles etc...

15x8 Weld pro stars all around
275/60/15 DR in da back

Thinking i might put a nice 8 point cage to be safe but one that doesnt make access to all of the vehicle too difficult

ALSO Thought id ask i want a nice pair of reclinable front seats that i was thinking of re-upholstering my interior fabric....
What do you guys think i was even considering dont flame me...DCR recaros and upholstering them my vinyl

But i really want c5 SEATS!!!!!
HELP GUYS NEED COMFORT AND LOOK AND MOST OF ALL FUNCTION

heres the thing, my car isnt a drag car. it was built to turn and stop, not launch. if i wanted a drag car i would have built a fox body. its by no means a drag car. that being said, 2700 pounds with driver and the motor is built to take 600 hp. i plan on coming close to making that out, combine that with a short geared tranny and im pulling some serious numbers out of a fwd street car. hell the car un tuned on the stock motor running a piddly 10 pounds was enough to take down c5 vettes, new and old stangs, just about anything i came across, hell at 7 pounds with a passanger i fed it to a g35 pretty bad, 7 pounds was dick for power and that was o nthe old tranny, lol. the car is by no means a slouch andbeing boosted and having the motor built for boost makes it that much quicker. i had my fmu die this year, i turned the boos tup to 15 pounds and the car was just insane. felt like it pulled harder than my buddies 430 whp srt 4, car just kicked me in the ass and buried the speedo like ive never seen. fmu died shortly after so i was stuck running 10 pounds at about 15:1 afr the ret of the year which was still enough to face **** a newer m3 3 ways from sunday, not bad seeing that the car would pull a ton of timing because of how lean it was running.

but hey we can talk about combinations, my engine build list is as long as my arm. when your done, if you wanna play fom a roll let me know, i mean according to you you should have no issues tearing me apart so give me a fair chance and go me from a speed that wont completely tear apart my tires :)

real races are from a dead stop non of this role bullshit

sounds like that 79 camaro is gonna be god on the streets if it actually happens

respect to ur cavi man 600hp is gonna be sweet

thanks man
god onthe streets, not really, roguevettes v6 vette would eat the 79camaro. 9 second street car, i can actually think of about 5 9 second street cars in my area alone, ones a stock suspensioned un tubbed 9.55et malibu but his car shoul dbe quick.

as i said though, my car is not a drag car, if i wanted to build it into one i wouldnt have run the suspension that im running and i would have set the car up to hook rather than turn :)

I'm not trying to be god of the streets you will have to realize there will always be faster better blah blah...I'm building for me...
Now as for the roll Idea....sorry no go unless your talking like 30-40 km roll...no lets go from 100 up my cars not built for that...
I have a short gear'd tranny and a huge rear end gear...its no highway runner and to be quite honest its true real races are digs and distances...
As much trouble as you have launching i have the same problem...and i say lets make it a track day...and 1st run No spray...beat me...2nd run all we got...
I'm not saying hold back 1st run either i wanna see everything you got...and we'll go from there then afterwards...we grab a beer and shoot the ...**** we'll make it a GTCARS sunday event...or something We'll be the single power adder class

hey thats cool man, im always up for something like that. i will have to learn the car first though. a fwd car is hard enough to launch when it isnt cranking out alot of power, lol. 30 - 40 kph is fine with me, i can start from second there and avoid first gear alltogether. i just dont want to have to launch the car if i dont have to. not that i lack throttel control because i really dont, but launching a fwd car puts alot of strain on parts and damnit im tired of replacing them, lol.

but a track day should be fine with me, maybe a prepped day where theyll actually have the track glued.

and i realise theres always gonna be someone faster, its just the way life goes, someone with deeper pockets and a better platform, always. i just like the fact that if i cant beat a large portion of the cars around ill atleast be able to hang them and scare them a little, because after all, its just a cavalier :D

Hey fellaz...did you check that post by canadiancharger under the "rants and smack talking/ civics suck"...hahaha that's just too funny but hopefully 100% legit..turns out it's his son that was posting

see...now this is a good topic. a thread thats actually on topic about cars ,racing,and good'ol shootin the shat ,we need more of these threads :>
Marko

i didnt mean it will actually be god on the streets
it was jus an expression that i used to big up the car thats all

but both cars r nice

hey lets se a link to this thing about his son.

and and my posts were from my dad, he was churching up my car, the old bastard

idiot...
 

lol sorry budd charger r/t is a big, heavy, peice of which isnt even that fast. lol i pwned one of those in my moms cadillac srx v8 :la:

:smilie_da

So are Magnums

everyone talks about civics n hondas but how come they get compared to every car out there n the first thing everyone wants to race is a civic??? little 4 bangers r still comparing to your v6's you guys go n buy these garbage domestics to b different ur v6's shud b eating these little 4 bangers

list of mods on the civic u iddiot

My Probe GT V6 eats stock civics like you wouldn't believe, and it's got a small V6. :dunno:

i dont kno much about probes but i take it the probe gt is the highest end probe like civics have base model ex.. dx cx... then theres si n theres sir and ek models had a type r.. have u even raced a civic sir???

I used to own a SiR, and my Probe would eat it's ass alive. The Probe GT was the high end model, and the only model with a V6. However, it's only got 160HP/155TQ from a high strung V6.

The point that I'm trying to make is you're coming on here about how 4CYL Honda's are taking out 6CYL domestics. I ask you to prove it, because I know for a fact you're talking out of your ass. I can name a dozen or more domestic cars, even 4 CYL's, that will show a Honda Civic it's ass.

And think before you respond, because I'm not some average street talkin' wannabe. I live, eat, and breathe cars. I know what I'm talking about and I base my opinions on experience and fact, not bullshit. I've owned turbo'd Civics ('99 SiR), turbo'd DSM's (92 Talon TSI, and 92 Talon ES ... not turbo), V8's (91 Trans Am GTA), MR sports cars (91 MR2 Turbo, 1991 Honda Beat), domestics (97 Probe GT, 99 Cadillac Eldorado V8), and a bunch of random .

These "garbage" domestics ARE eating 4 CYL's. Put me in a V6 Mustang and I'll show your Civic tails. A lot of the time it IS the driver. Hell, my old Cadillac Eldorado KILLED Civics/Integras/whatever with its V8 (not bad for a grandpa's car).

But what strikes me as odd is that every stock Civic I've ever seen run has never broken the 15 second barrier in the quarter mile. Not one. 15 seconds is NOT a fast car. It's a slow car. It's a slow, slow, slow, slow car. And guess what? Your Civic is a 15 second car UNLESS you pour some money into it. A lot of these guys running low 14, 13, and even high 12 second cars have poured money into the engine via turbo kits, high performance NA engines, and gutted interiors.

Anwyays, I went way off topic when I was ripping on you, so I'll just finish it. No replacement for displacement, sorry. All things being equal, Honda's are great for fuel economy and reliability. It takes money and wrench time to make a Civic fast, yet a few minor modifications to a Camaro, Mustang, Trans Am, Stealth, GNX, etc. to make them fast. See the difference?

And don't get me wrong, I love Honda's (I've owned two of them). I love imports, and nearly every car I've owned has been one. Hell, I've even owned JDM cars. But I don't make the mistake of thinking my Civic with a B16 can hang with a V8, because it can't. Not without some serious modding.

no disrespect bro but after owning all those cars n other cars you havent mentioned. n to go to a ford probe??? somethings wrong but like you said your talking from experience (if true?) im not saying civics are the fastest cars yes they are slow but the sirs type r's.. are not that slow there not the fastest but not the slowest.. they are the most stylish cars in there class an i wud buy a civic over n e camry probe corrolla. and for people to say there garbage waste of money what ever... how come ill see a civic over a probe any where n e day.... if probes are so great how come people would sink there money into civics over a probe??? proboly because the probe will break down 1 month later..n why is the civic number 1 in theft rate?? why are they the most on insurance...im not trying to argue with n e 1 all im saying is there not garbage they mayb slow but the higher end civics are not as slow n how can you compare a civic to your v8's, mustangs are in a higher class then a civic so it shud never win but if at anytime a civic beats n e other car in a higher class that car has bosting rights but everyone has there own opinion and interests this is mine that is yours.. i just don't understand why people make fun of people because of there car being slow.. if your not racing WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE.. if your taking your car to the track thats one thing but if your just an everyday driver who cares how fast your car is whats the point of having this super fast car if you cant use it..id rather a car that looks nice then drives fast in order for people to see the money and time you put into the car you have show them under your hood atleast if your car looks nice people can appreciate it when you drive by and if they dont like it who cares your car is a personal preference..

Ha, who here is saying Probe's are so great? I race a MR2, not a Probe. Look at my sig- I clearly put my time and money into my MR2. The Probe is the winter car. What are you talking about anyway? My Probe has taken a -storm beating from me and it still drives great- so much for "breaking down in a month" eh?

PS - I ripped a Civic a new today with it. Fun times :)

dude i can beat a stock civic on a ****in skateboard... thats no real accomplishment. the point is a stock civic costs u like 3 grand (and thats in GOOD shape lol). tuners don't buy civics to leave them stock.

sidenote - i beat my buddies 01' 1.8t golf (stock) in my old ass 93' Mazda MPV LOL... now THATS a kill story. JOKESWAGEN FTL

Instead of you talking about how Hondas cant do this or that, why dont you bring your mr2 out of storage so you can get your ass handed to you.

My friend has a 1992 Honda civic with a h22 motor, exhaust, and chip. Nothing more just that and only 178whp. He has full interior and crappy street tires. We'll race for money if you want, or just make it a learning lesson for you. So bring out your mr2 and come out and play. or are you scared.

So until you bring out your mr2 and actually do some racing stop telling people what a Honda can or cant do when you dont even own one. Its not always about who has more hp, alot has to do with weight.

I stopped reading after 'My friend has a....' :loser: Stop trying to race your friends car!

LOL The MR2 will be out in April. Cool your jets and we'll race then hotshot.

But, you got me thinking. The MR2 weighs 3,300 lbs fully loaded with a full tank and me in it (I've weighed this at a truck stop myself). According to various sources on the internet, a 92 Civic is 2,230 lbs- I don't know if that's loaded or not. Anyways, I got to thinking.

I have 270 whp, which equates to 12.45 lbs per HP. You have 178 whp, which equates to 12.52 lbs per HP. That's pretty damn close. Then I figured that I have wide rear tires, a kevlar clutch, and various other tidbits to help me hookup, and I'm 100% positive that I'll hook up faster than your civic anyway. I've got a full interior and these big heavy (24 lbs each) rims. I'm definitey setup for fun, not for racing, but hey, we'll still have a go.

So, your own rice math is still saying that I'd win. I'll teach you a lesson, and sure we can put money down on it (since you seem to have a lot of it). I'd love an extra couple hundred bucks for teaching some smartass Civic owner what's up. Hell, I'll even leave the boost at the stock 13psi it's at right now instead of putting it up to 16 psi (which I haven't dyno'd yet, but we'll say an extra 8 whp or so per lb of boost). So, umm, yea... when I take it out of storage in April, let's race.

I'm all for it :) Hell, I'll even buy the gas since I'm always up for a good laugh. Just promise me you won't do a ricer flyby when you lose- that's just embarassing for everyone involved :)

Oh, and just so we're clear- the MR2 is in storage NOW because the place where I stored it takes cars now for $125 for the WINTER. That's damn cheap. So no, it won't be coming out until April.

PS - I've owned two Civics (a 1991 Civic SE hatch, and a 1999 Civic SiR), and yea, neither one of them were fast, even after we swapped a B16 into the 91.

tooo much to read whats going on?

1992 Civic cx weighs 2094lbs which with 178whp gives it a weight ratio of 11.7lbs per whp. Better than your claim of 12.45lbs per whp. But you do have rwd which will make up for some of that weight with traction. Should be a very close race.

Here's a thought....maybe goldwing can get his own car over the winter and race the MR2 this spring. AGAIN, stop trying to race your friends car, lol

but i remember how slow civics are do you guys remember saying that i remember reading someone say they beat civics with a skateboard... n the probe killed civics... why now you have this 300 hp MR2 higher class car then a civic n now its gonna be a close race.. shouldnt that MR2 EAT the civic since it so slow.. i guess ciivics are not that slow unless the MR2 is REALLY slow.....LOL

Well right now my GTR Skyline is getting built, but come April it should be ready. I would race that mr2 with my civic but the civic is way to fast for it.
I actually tried racing you last year if you can remember (gtown69) and will love to race you now if your car is out. Pm me if you're still interested.

I have 3 cars but nothing in the mr2 13s class. Plus i'm trying to prove to that mr2 that you dont need high whp to put down some decent times. I'll race anything in my car so pm me if anyone is interested.

I know I challenge pretty much everyone in all my posts but, thats because no one races. Everyone is full of excuses.

Soo the question seems to be A790 are you down to race?

I was just hangn out with A790... his car is put up for the winter..... The civic will not be able to hang with him, even with that weight bs........ i do want to see the race though, haha

Bet your ass. As soon as my car comes out of storage I know a few Civic owners that want to hit me up.

I am the anti-civic.

HAHAH FTW!!!!

id take on the mr2 as well but after the winter, u wont be able to hang with me :la:

Sensing the BS I called Honda Canada, and they confirmed a weight of 2,236 lbs. Nice try :)

Heh- I'm down. I'll turn the boost up for you :headbang:

First of all a 92cx weights less than 2236lbs. I dont know where u got ur info from. Wats the number for honda canada I wanna call 4 myself. The STOCK weight of a 92 civic doesnt matter that car is weighed with a 1.5l motor, no rear disks, no options, 13' rims. So basically it doesnt apply. But I think we all know the out come of this thread. Considering A790s car is put away or so he says we never gonna find out whos faster. Cause we all know no one is gonna remember this race next year. Seems like the civic can run rite now. So uless your able to race at this point in time i dont see the point in arguing.

Well, i dont know what to say anymore.....:dunno: even if the civic had 200hp it wouldnt run with the mr2 is the mr2 driver sucked which he doesnt.....