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Old 02-22-2005, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by blackout_89t
^ Rebuild the entire bottom end as well. Do it yourself for less than $1000 (stock rebuild)
Well Im hoping I don't have to do that. The motor has only 30k. JDM motor he got not long ago.

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Dood.. that really sucks..

I didn't know you're around Sutton area.. I"m not that far from you... Which shop was it that you took it too?? And wats that ers name?? Sounds like a few people that might do that I know of

Guess he went down Markham cause it's a straight nice cruise down 48.

I would be sueing the company unless it's a private party kinda thing. To have someone work on your car thats no LEGALLY suppose to be behind the wheel is bad enough.. but to do it in your clients car is another.
I live in the newmarket area but yeah he lives in sutton. He worked at a autobody shop there i can't remember what its called. He did my car in a shop in his backyard though. But i am putting an injunction in on him for the 1700 dollars I paid.
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:28 AM
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but you gotta do what you gotta do if you are putting in a metal head gasket you gotta take out the engine anyway! might as well do it right hte first time so you have no problems later on...
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:00 AM
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but you gotta do what you gotta do if you are putting in a metal head gasket you gotta take out the engine anyway! might as well do it right hte first time so you have no problems later on...

what i was thinking was the cometic. Do you have to take out the block for them? I think they allow for a lot more error because they are not a full MHG and are much more crushable. I can't afford to do the bottom end right now time wise. I will be DDing this thing for the summer and hopefully will have a beater by next winter.
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:13 AM
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^^ Cometic IS metal. But, it is more forgiving than say an HKS or greddy MHG (a.k.a multi layer metal head gasket). Standard MHG's need an RA of 0.10. I believe you can get away with 0.20 on the cometic. But....With only 30K km's on the engine, the block will be flat enough to use a regular MHG, considering it is a cast iron block, it should not warp that easily. Mine was fine anyways, just one tiny pit on it that was JB welded. But im 100% possitive you will need to get the head decked/lapped. And when you do, be SURE to get the damn valve stem seals replaced, so many people use the old ones...BAD. And double check all your valve shim clearances.

A bottom end rebuild doesnt take long....I know of a guy that can have it done in less than a week, and for an excellent price. Doing it yourself, if you know what you are doing and have all your parts ready won't take long at all.
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keep in mind you cant really rely on what someone says about the engine (KM wise) until you have actually taken the head off. even then you cant be certain

for a HG to go at 30K on stock boost? im still on my stock HG and i tear this bad boy up im at 190K
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ANYTHING over stock boost on a stock head gasket with Toyota's stock head bolt torque specs, and that gasket will blow in less than a week.

A stock head gasket properly torqued down has been known to handle 400+whp.

IMO, Since you will be pulling the head off anyways to do the HG, I recomend at least changing the bearings and piston rings as well. I was stupid and did not do this. Luckily, I ended up with a JDM engine that performs at 110%
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Originally Posted by scottyp
You can always import one :thumbsup
That is also a VERY good idea. If I had the chance to start my car over, I would import an '89 JZA70 MK3. JZ engines > M series.
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yeah blackout i have seen a few pics of a MK3 with that engine its awsome! i will post a few pics in here once i get home from work.

back to the original topic, i agree with you blackout, if the engine is already out of the car a bottom end rebuild is the best thing to do/ and more!

but even those jdm motors have the same stock specs as ours so my questions still remains that if the engine is stock why would the head gasket go at 30K. i understand if it was under more boost, but not in stock conditions.
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scotty i was refering to a post a few above myne when since there already is a JDM motor in the car and the stock HG blew at stock boost at 30K

but i wonder what it would cost to import a mark3
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He might have upped the boost a bit or something. I mean like blackout said at stock specs with more boost the HG could blow anytime. I went up a few PSI on mine when i got it. It blew in a few weeks. It was at stock specs. Im sure he has receipts to prove when he bought the motor etc. ill think about rebuilding the bottom end but i don't know if my pockets can take it.

The worst thing about this is my dad is always against me buying money pits. and the car is 300km away. I will need him to tow it back with me. I hope i can convince him.

If the motor does infact only has 30k I should have to worry about rebuilding the bottom end right? or are JDM engines sometimes crap? My other supra had a fresh JDM motor when i got it aswell and I never had a problem with it.

If the block looks like it may give me problems then I guess it will have to come out of there but i hope not.

The car itself looks mint. Only seen 2 winters. its a 92. so ill have a good platform at least. I just hope I can tow it home ok
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From the pics you showed me the car seems to be in impecable shape.

As for JDM engines, you never know about those. When I first got my JDM engine I was stupid and got the shop I bought it from to install the engine. They had 3-4 7M's at their shop at the time and after waiting 2 weeks for them to do the swap I went to drive the car home and I ended up getting stranded on the 401. Oil Pump seized, spun a bearing. The engine was under warranty so after a couple heated phone calls I had the car towed back to the shop (at their expense) and had it replaced for free. I went in the back looking at there supply of engines and it turns out they didn't even use the engine that I picked out of the 4 laying there (I remember distinct paint markings on it). Anyways they installed the one I wanted at no cost, only to have the HG blow a month later. This is when I decided not to rely on shops anymore. Moral, be very (very) thorough when looking at JDM engines. They are not as good as people make them out to be. 30K km's or not, a 16 year old engine is still a 16 year old engine.

And Scottyp, I would also be very interested in the total cost of importing a jza70 supra from japan. If it is within my budget I may just have to sell mine and get one of those.
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im still on my stock hg but boost is going up the summer. my plans are to torque the head down a bit more and pray for the best!


:supergay: this emot has nothing to do with the post but its just funny lol
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