160 in a 100..summons to appear
07-04-2006, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuztom Freak
dude, thats dumb, sorry. Radar is hard to beat cuz there is proof, burden of proof belongs on the officer, there are cops who hand out BS tix ya know, ive seen em in parking lots writting tix out to cars properly parked in normal spaces and the tix will say "parked illegally in a fire zone" just to meet quota, bro ya need proof otherwise every cop who hates/profiles special interest vehicles could write any ticket for anything.
Originally Posted by Kuztom Freak
Maybe I missed it, but, where does it say the cop was doing 160, I only read the cop thought the guy was doing 160 and pulling away, Poppapete didnt say for sure, and i didnt just assume it was a bike.
he says he was following me going 160 and i was pulling away from him...
Originally Posted by Kuztom Freak
Listen, the cop may not have been going 160 at all, or may have been 160 just trying to catch up, i think Poppapete has a chance, I see a lot of lack of proof, thats all.
Originally Posted by Kuztom Freak
PS. gldwngr, I like to gamble on wierd stuff and this kinda qualifies. Now this thing could go either way (I thinks anyways) and I dont know the whole story, wanna make a wager(s)?
07-04-2006, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Low-Low
No actually your wrong.
First of all there is no "Crown" in traffic court, only a Prosecutor. The "Crown" appears in Criminal law, not HTA offences.
Second of all when the Prosecutor asks how the police officer ultimately determined the rate of speed the officer will say "radar". Pacing will only give an approximation of speed. I.E. is the Accused going about 160, by pacing, you can determine the accused is in fact going about 160. You cannot determine the exact speed of the accused using pacing. That is done during radar.
Finally I'll never be caught by a cruiser pacing me. I don't stop.
First of all there is no "Crown" in traffic court, only a Prosecutor. The "Crown" appears in Criminal law, not HTA offences.
Second of all when the Prosecutor asks how the police officer ultimately determined the rate of speed the officer will say "radar". Pacing will only give an approximation of speed. I.E. is the Accused going about 160, by pacing, you can determine the accused is in fact going about 160. You cannot determine the exact speed of the accused using pacing. That is done during radar.
Finally I'll never be caught by a cruiser pacing me. I don't stop.
a charge of speeding is laid regardless of whether you are going 1km over or 30km over. the speed over the limit is only for sentencing purposes.
if the officer had no expectation of a conviction based on his evidence he would simply lay a charge of careless driving instead, where there would be no need to bring up the actual speed involved.
yes they can pace.
its very simple, if you are going faster than the officer, his speed can be used as the speed you were going for the purposes of sentencing.
the exact speed is irrelevant to the offence.
07-06-2006, 01:41 PM
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brings back memories... got tagged doing 167 by OPP QEW/ford drive...cop was decent enough to drop it to 149....got it reduced in court through X-Copper to 129...well worth the $$$...thats my only advice...other than
SLOW down when your near the lion's den...(QEW/hurontario) lol
SLOW down when your near the lion's den...(QEW/hurontario) lol
07-08-2006, 12:54 PM
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yes going 160 by the lions den is a stupid move..i learned a valuable lesson after this, always check my mirrors to see who is behind me....but anyways after doing a little reading up on the internet i found out that if the cop lost sight of the vehicle he was pacing then that is enough to put doubt into the case, so i am going to gamble on the fact that when i got on the highway exit he didnt see any bike for a second or two.
08-17-2006, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuztom Freak
some cop cars have onboard cammeras and if he managed to record you then yer fukked, they dont use radar while driving (too many variables for the equipment and the "use" of the equipment in that manner would get thrown out in court).
Originally Posted by Kuztom Freak
Listen:- Ive had cops eventually pull me over when i was speeding (usually they got me 5 mins later when i was coming out of a store or at a buddys house) and gave me tix, and they always got thrown out of court, no lawyer needed, as they need to pull you over right away and not let you get away and find you parked somewhere 5 mins later, thats pure BS,
The key is they are expected to maintain visual contact.
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