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Zapa 07-23-2005 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by mondokyle
There Is No Replacement For Displacement.

Tell that to the rotary people ... if u know what that is ... probably not ...

rabbitman 07-23-2005 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by AMKK
Hemi's are 426ci, since you were referring to mopar.

Yeah my bad. But any big block, chevy, moparts, or ford sounds awesome though glasspacks.

midnighter 07-23-2005 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Zapa
Tell that to the rotary people ... if u know what that is ... probably not ...

What does that have to do with anything? There are companies that make 3, 4 and 5 rotor race engines, and those are insane.

rabbitman 07-23-2005 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by midnighter
What does that have to do with anything? There are companies that make 3, 4 and 5 rotor race engines, and those are insane.

Yeah but the "big" rotor engines are still generally only 3 liters. 900 hp+ 3 liters though. :la: I gotta find a wayto cram one of those into a rx8. That's the way that thing should have come from the factory. Min 3 rotor.

zazzn 07-23-2005 09:26 PM

RX8= :wood:
Displacement and boost = better
But here's the thing most of the old V8's don't have the heads to flow anything near what the new cars do.. **MOST**

If they could get the V8 to flow like a 2jz head that is sex on wheels.

How about scerw v10 and put 2 2jz-GTE's in? 6L v12...

The 850 BMW v12 is garbage for what it is.... Basically 2 I6 engines which1 bank can be turned off cor crusing, but still has no power.

Give me a engine like a Hemi that can turn off 1 bank, a twin trubo setup and free gas and i'd be in heaven

midnighter 07-23-2005 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by zazzn
RX8= :wood:
Displacement and boost = better
But here's the thing most of the old V8's don't have the heads to flow anything near what the new cars do.. **MOST**

If they could get the V8 to flow like a 2jz head that is sex on wheels.

How about scerw v10 and put 2 2jz-GTE's in? 6L v12...

The 850 BMW v12 is garbage for what it is.... Basically 2 I6 engines which1 bank can be turned off cor crusing, but still has no power.

Give me a engine like a Hemi that can turn off 1 bank, a twin trubo setup and free gas and i'd be in heaven

289 Tunnel port heads, had the 289's revving to 9k RPM in the 60's... those were insane heads. And I heard the 351 Cleveland heads are ing cavernous. You need to have a serious car or you'll always lean out with those. I don't think there's any issue getting nice heads for a V8, just most of them have pretty small ports STOCK.

Re the RX-8.. more of a sporty family car :) I heard Mazda's bringing another rotary sports car out, they just had to prove that they could build a solid rotary car in the first place and that the market was still there for it. Can't wait to see what they come up with.

audi_rs 07-24-2005 06:12 AM

lol for 1300 bucks, u can get 2 BFG 6600GT OC'd cards, actually less then that. prolly around a grand, that extra 300 bucks u saved from ur video card, u can buy an idea, or even better, ur bus pass for the year :laugh:

btw, all v8's are wood! :loser:

Viperoni 07-24-2005 10:35 PM

The key to speed is indeed making lots of torque over a wide band and into relatively high RPM's so that you can take advantage of shorter gearing.

This is why an RSX-S which makes like half the WTQ of a 90's Mustang GT manages to keeps up with it.

zazzn 07-25-2005 04:35 AM

Welll thats also why the newer supra can keep up... It's got 6 gears, and the ability to keep in high revs so people thorw on huge turbos to take advantage of that fact and make stupid power.

One thing's for sure there is no other 3L like it. Even ported the older pushrod V8's lack the ability of a good port since there just isn't material.

Modern V8's like the LS7 is a good example of a very very fast engine with the power of modern day tech.

Add boost to LS7 and it will be retarded.... Anyone in a 6CYL and 8CYL that think their car has as much potential of a boosted v8 is a damned fool.

Now I'm no V8 Guy but I can see when the writing is on the board.

:thumbsup

Rsx can't keep up with a new mustang.... Stop lieing to your self. 260 HP maybe more now and like 290-3xx ft tq.... RSX can keep up with maybe a 15 year old fox body thats about it.

:lol_hitti :UDONT:

Cracky 07-25-2005 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Viperoni
The key to speed is indeed making lots of torque over a wide band and into relatively high RPM's so that you can take advantage of shorter gearing.

This is why an RSX-S which makes like half the WTQ of a 90's Mustang GT manages to keeps up with it.

you mean an SiR can walk a 90's gt and a modded type S can eat them..yeah i know :hah:

Zapa 07-25-2005 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Cracky
you mean an SiR can walk a 90's gt and a modded type S can eat them..yeah i know :hah:

stock rsx-s vs stock 90's GT only stick to eachtoher in north american roads with 5 lanes going straight for 20 km , so that 400 kilo canadian women can drive them easily

if we were in europe , the gt might end up cutting shortcuts through the trees , or trying to take off a cliff or something of the like


Don't forget that some cars are 4 bangers to balance other things out . If you don't belive me , take a 2000 hp hick ride with a V20 , 9000 CC engine over (ask billy ray or clayton ) to europe and see how many diesels embaras you on the open road . :laugh: ...

2tone_93gt 07-25-2005 04:18 PM

15 years of technology difference from a Mustang GT to the cars of today.
4 bangers today make impressive numbers but if im picking a car to race, i will buy a used 1990 5L and slap on a blower, do a gear, suspension for a fraction of the cost of an RSX and rape the rsx all day.

But yea, 1990 GT mustangs sure do own 1975 Honda Civics.

http://www.roadcompanion.ca/edito/ma...CVCC1975_g.jpg

time for a new emoticon, TSR LOGIC

comepare the RSX to atleast a recent car, like the Mustang GT or Cobra.. theres your v8 you can size up against.

Zapa 07-25-2005 04:25 PM

i'm not bitching about that

new stangs kick ass and drive amaizing ... but some people don't get it and keep on arguing how easy you can put an old boat into the 11's without realising that , that's not how everyone perceives fun driving a car .

Strokerace 07-25-2005 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Zapa
i'm not bitching about that

new stangs kick ass and drive amaizing ... but some people don't get it and keep on arguing how easy you can put an old boat into the 11's without realising that , that's not how everyone perceives fun driving a car .

The actual point you are trying to make is, people know that you can make a nice sled like a stang go faster then any civic or any other 4 banger around for less money. People only like the little 4 bangers as they can't handle driving a real car that has style. They also buy the little 4 bangers so they can impress their friends. That is all this is about. Majority of the users here that have civics is because their friends have one and can't learn to think outside the box. I have driving alot of different cars and the only import that has impressed me the most ofr comfort and handling would be a toyota. The rest feel like pop cans on wheels and when at high speads, they feel like they are going to shake apart at the seems.But really, the point is, it doesn't make what you have or build, its what makes it acroos the 1320 foot line first.

Zapa 07-25-2005 06:54 PM

we're not talking necesarily civics here

I think an RSX or an A4 have more style than a stang any day of the week . Even the new stang , might be fast , and cute and all , but when u get into it , you feel american Qrapality all over , looks like it's a toy rather than a car inside .


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