All 4 cylinders are a piece of wood!
07-20-2005, 11:37 AM
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All 4 cylinders are a piece of wood!
There Is No Replacement For Displacement.
07-20-2005, 11:59 AM
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replacements for displacement is technology. 3 L 10's are the .
07-20-2005, 12:51 PM
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here we go again - another idiot posting how all 4 cyl's are . God when will people give up, and how many 4's must feed it to a 6 or an 8 before they understand.
lets lay it all out for yet another pointless post - there are advantages and disadvantages to both. I know many 4's that feed it to vipers, and I know many stangs that feed it to civics. NO MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID!
lets lay it all out for yet another pointless post - there are advantages and disadvantages to both. I know many 4's that feed it to vipers, and I know many stangs that feed it to civics. NO MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID!
07-20-2005, 12:58 PM
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Damn 30 year old mullets They all suck. Can't have a haircut without scissors 
07-20-2005, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Supramanz
Damn 30 year old mullets They all suck. Can't have a haircut without scissors
But yeah....Mullet heads are meatballs...the replacment for displacment are..........REVS and lots of them bitch!
07-20-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ivperformance
replacements for displacement is technology. 3 L 10's are the .
technology+puny displacement=regress
Think about it, if you can squeeze XXX HP from a combination of puny displacement+technology.. Then logically speaking you can squeeze XXX HP+MORE XXX HP from a larger displacement+technology..
Do the math..
I don't see exotics running around in 4 cylinders.. and I don't think anyone would buy an exotic running a 4 cylinder.. Even the NSX is going 10 cylinders in a few years.. Need I say anymore?
07-20-2005, 01:50 PM
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getting alot of HP out of a 4 cylinder required more brains than boring out everything out in your gas guzzling monster, its the old way of doing things. you cant just keep on going bigger and bigger, look at the oil prices.Ok lets try this another way, look at the F1 series for example, a benchmark in automotive performance, drive on 3L v10, small displacment, in fact a little bit smaller cylinders than our 4 bangers, not even close to the v8s. rally cars use flat 4s and 6s at 2L displacements, same thing, anything that requires any sort of skill and performing car is small displacement. Only the retarded sport of indy uses large displacment vehicles, and thats because they dont have to move all that weight anywhere, they modify their "STOCK" cars so much it can barley go straight just so it can go around that corner with that huge v8 in it. beh, retarded.
07-20-2005, 01:56 PM
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Look...
You live in North America, this is where big engines are king, the people are overweight, everything else in society is dealt in "large" terms and racing is in ovals and straight lines..
If you don't like this.. pack up your belongings and 4 cylinder wood and ship that crap all the way back to asia where it belongs...
You live in North America, this is where big engines are king, the people are overweight, everything else in society is dealt in "large" terms and racing is in ovals and straight lines..
If you don't like this.. pack up your belongings and 4 cylinder wood and ship that crap all the way back to asia where it belongs...
07-20-2005, 02:10 PM
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you have to be one of the least educated members of this forum! when an SR20 can FEED it to a 5.0, that's sayin A LOT! Its saying that North Americans UNDER ENGINEER their cars.
A mullet in like you must have some sort of 'big' car to back up his bull - so what do your drive *** hole?
A mullet in like you must have some sort of 'big' car to back up his bull - so what do your drive *** hole?
07-20-2005, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullet
you have to be one of the least educated members of this forum! when an SR20 can FEED it to a 5.0, that's sayin A LOT! Its saying that North Americans UNDER ENGINEER their cars.
A mullet in like you must have some sort of 'big' car to back up his bull - so what do your drive *** hole?
A mullet in like you must have some sort of 'big' car to back up his bull - so what do your drive *** hole?
It is "you" who doesn't belong here.. if ya don't like it here where larger displacement is commonplace and ya don't like it how people in North America drives in ovals and straight lines.. take that crap back to ASIA! Do I need to repeat myself here?... Ragging on them won't change the landscape!
It is people like you who **** me off and make me create these threads...
07-20-2005, 02:52 PM
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sorry to tell you this but large displacement is not commonplace anymore...wake up look around, its a new world.
07-20-2005, 02:55 PM
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Man, a talker like you is just asking to be attacked when you come out spewing such and don't even drive yourself! WTF do you know?
Lets make an easy comparison. Lets compare the almighty 'FORD MUSTANG' to the apparently incompetant 'NISSAN SILVIA'.
In 1990 Ford is apparently 'on top of their game' while producing the 5.0L Mustang. With 225 HP on an under acheiving and under engineered motor - the mustang weighed in at a horrible 3321 lbs! Comparitively, the 1990 Nissan Silvia weighs in at only 2627 lbs but is remarkably putting out 207HP in only a 2.0L. LESS THAN HALF OF THE SHITTY MUSTANG.
Now lets jump forward 9 years to see if the American automotive manufactures have learned anything. 1999 Mustang GT still putting out 225 HP but now only in a 4.6L (0.4L improvement in 9 years!). Foolishly Ford had upped the curb weight to a remarkable 3502 lbs - now that's a piece of wood if I've ever seen one! Comparitively Nissan also ups its curb weight in there 1999 to 2801 lbs. Nissan decides to stay with their 'low displacement' 2.0L motor - but now it puts out 247 hp! Not only is the Silvia now lighter, it also has more HP!
Now common fool, admit your wrong and go home! We don't want to hear your bullshit anymore.
And to all those mustang drivers - I don't mean to centre out your rides, cause I've always loved taking an old 5.0L for a spin, I just don't think that North American manufacturer's can compare to the engineering behind the japanese motors.
Just my 2 cents.
Man, a talker like you is just asking to be attacked when you come out spewing such and don't even drive yourself! WTF do you know?
Lets make an easy comparison. Lets compare the almighty 'FORD MUSTANG' to the apparently incompetant 'NISSAN SILVIA'.
In 1990 Ford is apparently 'on top of their game' while producing the 5.0L Mustang. With 225 HP on an under acheiving and under engineered motor - the mustang weighed in at a horrible 3321 lbs! Comparitively, the 1990 Nissan Silvia weighs in at only 2627 lbs but is remarkably putting out 207HP in only a 2.0L. LESS THAN HALF OF THE SHITTY MUSTANG.
Now lets jump forward 9 years to see if the American automotive manufactures have learned anything. 1999 Mustang GT still putting out 225 HP but now only in a 4.6L (0.4L improvement in 9 years!). Foolishly Ford had upped the curb weight to a remarkable 3502 lbs - now that's a piece of wood if I've ever seen one! Comparitively Nissan also ups its curb weight in there 1999 to 2801 lbs. Nissan decides to stay with their 'low displacement' 2.0L motor - but now it puts out 247 hp! Not only is the Silvia now lighter, it also has more HP!
Now common fool, admit your wrong and go home! We don't want to hear your bullshit anymore.
And to all those mustang drivers - I don't mean to centre out your rides, cause I've always loved taking an old 5.0L for a spin, I just don't think that North American manufacturer's can compare to the engineering behind the japanese motors.
Just my 2 cents.
07-20-2005, 04:11 PM
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Actually they can. It seems that alot of the designs on the jap motors are actually from north america. What alot of you fail to realise, is north america has been financing the jap over the years. For a prime example look at the latest compact cars that GM and ford have released in the last 10 to 15 years. Most of them are japanese cars altered with their names on them. You know why? these companies were in finacial difficulties, so the invest huge cash into these companies. So in short, they maybe japanese vehicles, but they are built and paid for North american technoligy. Other wise, these companies would have disappeared and would only have the major 3 car lines to choose from, unless you had large cash to buy the excotic ones.
Now for the whole 4 banger thing. Yes, you can get awhole lot of HP out of them now, but look at the cost for doing it.To build a 4 banger to get 400HP + out of them will run you a few thousand. Now you can go to GM and buy create motors starting off with 350 hp for about $2200 and up to the $5000 for a 500hp big block. Now put these into a light weight chassey, you will have a quick car. Probally the most over looked engine is the V6. It can achieve the same hp as any V8 for less weight. Hell, throw on a turbo to a 150 hp V6 and it would not be a problem getting 300hp on pump gas and still have great fuel economy too.In short, I would say the era for the gas guzzling V8's is over and its now time for the 4's and 6's to take over.
Now for the whole 4 banger thing. Yes, you can get awhole lot of HP out of them now, but look at the cost for doing it.To build a 4 banger to get 400HP + out of them will run you a few thousand. Now you can go to GM and buy create motors starting off with 350 hp for about $2200 and up to the $5000 for a 500hp big block. Now put these into a light weight chassey, you will have a quick car. Probally the most over looked engine is the V6. It can achieve the same hp as any V8 for less weight. Hell, throw on a turbo to a 150 hp V6 and it would not be a problem getting 300hp on pump gas and still have great fuel economy too.In short, I would say the era for the gas guzzling V8's is over and its now time for the 4's and 6's to take over.
07-20-2005, 05:42 PM
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Actually they can. It seems that alot of the designs on the jap motors are actually from north america. What alot of you fail to realise, is north america has been financing the jap over the years. For a prime example look at the latest compact cars that GM and ford have released in the last 10 to 15 years. Most of them are japanese cars altered with their names on them. You know why? these companies were in finacial difficulties, so the invest huge cash into these companies. So in short, they maybe japanese vehicles, but they are built and paid for North american technoligy. Other wise, these companies would have disappeared and would only have the major 3 car lines to choose from, unless you had large cash to buy the excotic ones.
Now for the whole 4 banger thing. Yes, you can get awhole lot of HP out of them now, but look at the cost for doing it.To build a 4 banger to get 400HP + out of them will run you a few thousand. Now you can go to GM and buy create motors starting off with 350 hp for about $2200 and up to the $5000 for a 500hp big block. Now put these into a light weight chassey, you will have a quick car. Probally the most over looked engine is the V6. It can achieve the same hp as any V8 for less weight. Hell, throw on a turbo to a 150 hp V6 and it would not be a problem getting 300hp on pump gas and still have great fuel economy too.In short, I would say the era for the gas guzzling V8's is over and its now time for the 4's and 6's to take over.
Now for the whole 4 banger thing. Yes, you can get awhole lot of HP out of them now, but look at the cost for doing it.To build a 4 banger to get 400HP + out of them will run you a few thousand. Now you can go to GM and buy create motors starting off with 350 hp for about $2200 and up to the $5000 for a 500hp big block. Now put these into a light weight chassey, you will have a quick car. Probally the most over looked engine is the V6. It can achieve the same hp as any V8 for less weight. Hell, throw on a turbo to a 150 hp V6 and it would not be a problem getting 300hp on pump gas and still have great fuel economy too.In short, I would say the era for the gas guzzling V8's is over and its now time for the 4's and 6's to take over.
07-20-2005, 06:25 PM
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rsx, 2.0L-->210hp
s2000, 2.2L-->240
all four cylinders, nuff said. the only cars under 50G's that produce over 100hp per litre
s2000, 2.2L-->240
all four cylinders, nuff said. the only cars under 50G's that produce over 100hp per litre