ernie's 5oh

yes thats my point, but here is someone that lives here in toronto, and goes to TMP and races with OSCA. someone local
not no import and makes pass after pass, faster then any import around the world.
my hats off to terry brown. 6.30 1/4

R/T kota

Terry lives in Caledonia
video---> New look for Terry Brown`s challenger

ernie's 5oh

Yup he is a local, not some guy on you tube or in a mag.
GTA's own along with many others
oh don't forget about Joe dasilva in his sn95 mustang running 6.22 in the 1/4 with a small block ford,he has a shop he just moved from kingston rd to pickering
He is a multiple time pro 5.0 champ.

R/T kota

I remember about 4 years ago terry drove that car down the street here in hamilton.
Chutes, wheelie bars, zoomies, and a trip permit in the window.
Wish I had the camera that night.

rabbitman

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I love this arguement. It's never going to end, ever. I drive and Import, and unless I find a 1987 Buick T type, or a 1988 Mustang nocthback 5l, that's not likely to change. Chances are, I would use a Ford 9" in the Regal, simply due to strength, any drag racer knows you can't do much better than that dif. I've seen them put in Supras, and most any car ever built for drag racing. As for Skylines and Supras on the drag strip, they weren't built to drag race, any more than a Civic was.

R/T kota

The 8.5 in the T types and GNs are very strong. Seen them handle power well into the 9s with a little modification.

ernie's 5oh

true but if your going to spend any money get a 9" and you can go deep in the 9's and modifying it you can go deep in the 6's

I',m just started to dip into the 8's but I know my 9" is good for mid 7's, just added insurance so I won't snap a shaft and do a right hand turn into the guard rails.

VWJettaMK2

I dont understand how we are comparing domestic to import. I drive a VW which makes very slow cars even from factory. You also have to look at price differences for cars. To make 300whp in a Honda or a Ford is alot cheaper then a VW.

My car with a stage 3 turbo kit makes 330whp and it costs 6G's plus taxes, shipping and labour. So for 8G's on a 5L Ford, you can make it alot more then 330whp.


Heres a video of JP in his MK2 GTI 24v VR6 Turbo
YouTube - jp 9.97@143mph


MINT GTI;
YouTube - MINT GTI - 24vTurbo 11.044@130mph


The second one is a daily street driven car.

Now Im aware these arent fast cars compared to 5,6,7,8 second cars but for a FWD car they do pretty good.

Actully JP is the fastest watercooled VW in Canada currently which is pretty big I guess

QuickGT

Comparing Domestics to Imports in ANY forum will only bring out the worst in everyone.

The sad reality is, true domestic cars are going by way of the doe doe.

Most "domestic" cars today in the mid and sub compact class, are copy cats of any number of Imports.

I'd have to guess there must be a reason for this? lol Maybe the Imports are better built!

But back to the original post comment about Imports not being able to handle themselves spilling their cookies on the track,
and making the poor "Domestic" car guys have to wait... ppfftttt.

Put down the crack pipe, and no one has to get hurt.
(kidding of course)

To even make such a ridiculous statement as that, I'd say you're most likely a tad bitter...but heh... that's ok, Happens to the best of us. =)

ANY car can be built to stay together... It all comes down to how fast do you want to go "reliably"

And don't you kid yourself, their out there, LOTS of Imports are running amazing times and doing it All Day Long.

=)

ernie's 5oh

Your idea of amazing times, are for sure totally different then mine. running 12's and 13's all day isn't my idea of fast.

As far as being bitter, Dam right I am, so many times they spoiled the track right before it was my turn, causing it to be very dangeous for us if the spoters don't get all the fuilds.

I even made it a rule to make sure aleast 2-3 domistic car with slicks go ahead of me.

you know out of all imports I have to say VW are more of my favorites, and I haven't seen one break down at the track, so this thread isn't directed to german and Italian cars

judgez24

corvette would fist **** an nsx around any and every track

judgez24

just to add, theres a fella running around in a c5 vette, goes by billy, his old yellow vette was a turbo car, the car looked stock, ran 6's and saw street duty. his current yellow cr runs low 10's on the motor and its a nitrous car, dvd player stereo etc etc. as for track comparison, take the r35, which is worth what, 80 grand? and compare it to the new zr1, price range is a bit off but your comparing apples to apples.

kyriian

i wouldnt say that for sure, same driver, yes, bad driver... well...

ive seen a few vettes on track days... but under bad drivers, but so did a ferrari 360 that showed up, and was passed by my friend in a basic MINI Cooper!

but this is about drag racing right? ive not taken my car there yet but i reckon most people would smoke my car

QuickGT

Well ernie, I'm sure you're far more knowledgeable then I am track side, as you race and I don't.
However, I still disagree with your statement, and further more, if it were such a problem at the track,
I'm sure there would be rules in place to prevent such a travesty from happening in the first place.


Watch out for them Imports, you never know what you might end up getting sm0ked by.

YouTube - 9 second turbo hyundai



Or what might crap out infront of you.
YouTube - Camaro loses it's rear end


Domestic right?

Oh and here is one I know you'll love, you mentioned you're just dipping into the 8's...

maybe you can get pointers from this guy, he seems to have gotten there with his little "ricer"

YouTube - 8 second civic


I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

peace dude. :thumbsup:

Not to mention a $3500.00 shifter kart, holds the second fastest lap record around Mosport, just 10th's of a second behind a 2 or 3+ million dollar formula 1 car.

I don't amagine a corvette driver would say that's a fair race though.

And it's not even a domestic!... it's an import too... funny how that works.

lol

R/T kota

Your video links don't work but I think I know the one video "camaro loses rear end"
That is an aftermarket back half done very poorly.

Now as far as whats fast and whats not, anything can be made fast. Its all cubic dollars. The difference is, for most imports mainly the front wheel drives, on the drag strip, they have to spend thousands usually to just get to the stock performance of a stock 20 year old mustang. So how much do you figure the 8 second civic had into it and how streetable is that car?
I know of several 8 and 9 second domestic cars that see the street on a regular basis. Even a few 7 second cars too.
Look up the drag week videos from 1320video.com. You will see some fine examples there.

There was a low 12 second civic running around hamilton last summer. Impressive car but I found out that the engine block alone in that car was worth 8 thousand dollars. A shot of spray on a stock fox mustang will run that number.

Ya ya, we all know that some imports are making more horse power per cubic in or litre or whatever form of measurements you want to use, but the fact remains, the domestics rule at the drag strip.
Some impressive imports I have to admit, but they are mainly the rear driven ones. Supras and car like that. I however, have yet to see the famed legendary skylines run a respectable number at the drag strip. All the skylines I have seen at the track have a hard time getting out of the 14s.

And to back up Ernie, it is frustrating when these import cars spit out a half shaft and they have to spend 45 minutes cleaning up the track.
Domestic cars brake too, but they don't usually leave as big of a mess behind.