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Sparrow 07-20-2007 08:23 AM

100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
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Michael Pardee 07-20-2007 11:59 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
"Sparrow" <funnybunnyfive@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184934200.704687.50770@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com...
> Read about it at http://Muvy.org
>
>

Spam, spam, spam....

These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

If you're going to spam us, try getting your feet on the ground first.

Mike




Michael Pardee 07-20-2007 11:59 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
"Sparrow" <funnybunnyfive@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184934200.704687.50770@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com...
> Read about it at http://Muvy.org
>
>

Spam, spam, spam....

These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

If you're going to spam us, try getting your feet on the ground first.

Mike




Michael Pardee 07-20-2007 11:59 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
"Sparrow" <funnybunnyfive@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184934200.704687.50770@57g2000hsv.googlegrou ps.com...
> Read about it at http://Muvy.org
>
>

Spam, spam, spam....

These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

If you're going to spam us, try getting your feet on the ground first.

Mike




clifto 07-21-2007 12:56 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.


Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.

I leave it to someone else with a much wilder imagination than I have to
figure out where to get a battery that will charge significantly in ten
minutes, much less a whole pack of them.

--
"Justice Thomas pointed out that the Constitution does not waive the rights
of the individual because an elite has decided its motives are pure."
-- Paul Greenberg

clifto 07-21-2007 12:56 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.


Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.

I leave it to someone else with a much wilder imagination than I have to
figure out where to get a battery that will charge significantly in ten
minutes, much less a whole pack of them.

--
"Justice Thomas pointed out that the Constitution does not waive the rights
of the individual because an elite has decided its motives are pure."
-- Paul Greenberg

clifto 07-21-2007 12:56 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.


Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.

I leave it to someone else with a much wilder imagination than I have to
figure out where to get a battery that will charge significantly in ten
minutes, much less a whole pack of them.

--
"Justice Thomas pointed out that the Constitution does not waive the rights
of the individual because an elite has decided its motives are pure."
-- Paul Greenberg

Michael Pardee 07-21-2007 02:00 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:09g8n4-ao1.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
>> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
>> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
>> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

>
> Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
> 41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.
>

All we have to do is upgrade our homes' electric service to 1000A and we
will be in great shape!




Michael Pardee 07-21-2007 02:00 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:09g8n4-ao1.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
>> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
>> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
>> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

>
> Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
> 41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.
>

All we have to do is upgrade our homes' electric service to 1000A and we
will be in great shape!




Michael Pardee 07-21-2007 02:00 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:09g8n4-ao1.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
>> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
>> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
>> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

>
> Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
> 41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.
>

All we have to do is upgrade our homes' electric service to 1000A and we
will be in great shape!




Gordon McGrew 07-22-2007 12:42 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:00:09 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:09g8n4-ao1.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
>>> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
>>> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
>>> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

>>
>> Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
>> 41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.
>>

>All we have to do is upgrade our homes' electric service to 1000A and we
>will be in great shape!


Actually, you will need more than 2000A and even more if you want to
run your refrigerator at the same time. Of course the 10 minute
charge sounds more like a "gas station" mode. If the "gas station"
wants to charge three of these vehicles at once, it will need 6000+A
service. Figure they will charge you about at least $15 for that $5
worth of electricity to pay for the infrastructure and provide a
profit. The real question is, how far can you drive on that $15 fill
up? I would be surprised if it is any farther than you can get on $15
worth of gasoline.

Gordon McGrew 07-22-2007 12:42 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:00:09 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:09g8n4-ao1.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
>>> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
>>> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
>>> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

>>
>> Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
>> 41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.
>>

>All we have to do is upgrade our homes' electric service to 1000A and we
>will be in great shape!


Actually, you will need more than 2000A and even more if you want to
run your refrigerator at the same time. Of course the 10 minute
charge sounds more like a "gas station" mode. If the "gas station"
wants to charge three of these vehicles at once, it will need 6000+A
service. Figure they will charge you about at least $15 for that $5
worth of electricity to pay for the infrastructure and provide a
profit. The real question is, how far can you drive on that $15 fill
up? I would be surprised if it is any farther than you can get on $15
worth of gasoline.

Gordon McGrew 07-22-2007 12:42 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:00:09 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:09g8n4-ao1.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was kicked
>>> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
>>> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC it
>>> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.

>>
>> Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes is
>> 41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.
>>

>All we have to do is upgrade our homes' electric service to 1000A and we
>will be in great shape!


Actually, you will need more than 2000A and even more if you want to
run your refrigerator at the same time. Of course the 10 minute
charge sounds more like a "gas station" mode. If the "gas station"
wants to charge three of these vehicles at once, it will need 6000+A
service. Figure they will charge you about at least $15 for that $5
worth of electricity to pay for the infrastructure and provide a
profit. The real question is, how far can you drive on that $15 fill
up? I would be surprised if it is any farther than you can get on $15
worth of gasoline.

sharx35 07-22-2007 03:35 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 

"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:5gn5a39fglhmuep94hvr40no7e4sidmre8@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:00:09 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>>"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:09g8n4-ao1.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was
>>>> kicked
>>>> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
>>>> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC
>>>> it
>>>> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.
>>>
>>> Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes
>>> is
>>> 41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.
>>>

>>All we have to do is upgrade our homes' electric service to 1000A and we
>>will be in great shape!

>
> Actually, you will need more than 2000A and even more if you want to
> run your refrigerator at the same time. Of course the 10 minute
> charge sounds more like a "gas station" mode. If the "gas station"
> wants to charge three of these vehicles at once, it will need 6000+A
> service. Figure they will charge you about at least $15 for that $5
> worth of electricity to pay for the infrastructure and provide a
> profit. The real question is, how far can you drive on that $15 fill
> up? I would be surprised if it is any farther than you can get on $15
> worth of gasoline.



What? Your house doesn't have 1000 Amp. service? I thought that was the bare
minimum. ROFL!!!! Seriously, most houses up here have either 100 or 200 amp
service. Back in the 50's, 75 amp was the norm.





sharx35 07-22-2007 03:35 AM

Re: 100% Electric SUV From Phoenix Motorcars Recharges In 10 Minutes
 

"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:5gn5a39fglhmuep94hvr40no7e4sidmre8@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:00:09 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>>"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:09g8n4-ao1.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> These sensationalist articles don't help, either. This subject was
>>>> kicked
>>>> around in the Yahoo! Toyota-Prius forum a couple months ago and the big
>>>> hitch was the amount of power required to do a ten minute charge. IIRC
>>>> it
>>>> was around 250kW - in a league with entire shopping malls and colleges.
>>>
>>> Actually, that doesn't sound that unreasonable. 250 KW for ten minutes
>>> is
>>> 41.7 KWH, about $5 worth of electricity.
>>>

>>All we have to do is upgrade our homes' electric service to 1000A and we
>>will be in great shape!

>
> Actually, you will need more than 2000A and even more if you want to
> run your refrigerator at the same time. Of course the 10 minute
> charge sounds more like a "gas station" mode. If the "gas station"
> wants to charge three of these vehicles at once, it will need 6000+A
> service. Figure they will charge you about at least $15 for that $5
> worth of electricity to pay for the infrastructure and provide a
> profit. The real question is, how far can you drive on that $15 fill
> up? I would be surprised if it is any farther than you can get on $15
> worth of gasoline.



What? Your house doesn't have 1000 Amp. service? I thought that was the bare
minimum. ROFL!!!! Seriously, most houses up here have either 100 or 200 amp
service. Back in the 50's, 75 amp was the norm.






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