Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

=== snip ===

Thanks all. We got about a foot of snow dumped on us since Friday!
The Accord was sitting out in the driveway where I was trying to jump
it, so I guess the relay replacement must wait till tomorrow or Mon.
:-(
I *was* puzzled about it's behavior during past few months. I had
encountered the standard "won't start after a quick run to grocery
store" a few times. I should have queried this NG back then, would
have saved myself some grief. Oh well!

Thanks again.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

=== snip ===

Thanks all. We got about a foot of snow dumped on us since Friday!
The Accord was sitting out in the driveway where I was trying to jump
it, so I guess the relay replacement must wait till tomorrow or Mon.
:-(
I *was* puzzled about it's behavior during past few months. I had
encountered the standard "won't start after a quick run to grocery
store" a few times. I should have queried this NG back then, would
have saved myself some grief. Oh well!

Thanks again.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

=== snip ===

Thanks all. We got about a foot of snow dumped on us since Friday!
The Accord was sitting out in the driveway where I was trying to jump
it, so I guess the relay replacement must wait till tomorrow or Mon.
:-(
I *was* puzzled about it's behavior during past few months. I had
encountered the standard "won't start after a quick run to grocery
store" a few times. I should have queried this NG back then, would
have saved myself some grief. Oh well!

Thanks again.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
news:BBF75EE0.12742%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:

> On 12/6/03 9:01, in article
> Xns94496623799EEjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>


>> Geez,it's SO much easier (and safer!)to just resolder the main
>> relay,ELIMINATING it as a trouble source.
>
>
> Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the relay out of it's hiding spot
> in my Civic and an additional 10 seconds to TEST it by replacing it
> with jumper wires as described above. Since it did not run with the
> relay, and did run with the jumpers, I could then be sure that the
> relay was at fault and proceed to solder it, thus ELIMINATING it as a
> trouble source. It's also a good trick to have up your sleeve if your
> home soldering job fails for any reason and you need to get your car
> to a safer area.
>
> Jason
>

Once you have removed the MR,why not resolder it anyways?
I've never heard of a resoldered relay failing again.
Use electrical solder,not pipe solder.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
news:BBF75EE0.12742%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:

> On 12/6/03 9:01, in article
> Xns94496623799EEjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>


>> Geez,it's SO much easier (and safer!)to just resolder the main
>> relay,ELIMINATING it as a trouble source.
>
>
> Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the relay out of it's hiding spot
> in my Civic and an additional 10 seconds to TEST it by replacing it
> with jumper wires as described above. Since it did not run with the
> relay, and did run with the jumpers, I could then be sure that the
> relay was at fault and proceed to solder it, thus ELIMINATING it as a
> trouble source. It's also a good trick to have up your sleeve if your
> home soldering job fails for any reason and you need to get your car
> to a safer area.
>
> Jason
>

Once you have removed the MR,why not resolder it anyways?
I've never heard of a resoldered relay failing again.
Use electrical solder,not pipe solder.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
news:BBF75EE0.12742%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:

> On 12/6/03 9:01, in article
> Xns94496623799EEjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>


>> Geez,it's SO much easier (and safer!)to just resolder the main
>> relay,ELIMINATING it as a trouble source.
>
>
> Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the relay out of it's hiding spot
> in my Civic and an additional 10 seconds to TEST it by replacing it
> with jumper wires as described above. Since it did not run with the
> relay, and did run with the jumpers, I could then be sure that the
> relay was at fault and proceed to solder it, thus ELIMINATING it as a
> trouble source. It's also a good trick to have up your sleeve if your
> home soldering job fails for any reason and you need to get your car
> to a safer area.
>
> Jason
>

Once you have removed the MR,why not resolder it anyways?
I've never heard of a resoldered relay failing again.
Use electrical solder,not pipe solder.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
news:BBF75EE0.12742%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:

> On 12/6/03 9:01, in article
> Xns94496623799EEjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>


>> Geez,it's SO much easier (and safer!)to just resolder the main
>> relay,ELIMINATING it as a trouble source.
>
>
> Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the relay out of it's hiding spot
> in my Civic and an additional 10 seconds to TEST it by replacing it
> with jumper wires as described above. Since it did not run with the
> relay, and did run with the jumpers, I could then be sure that the
> relay was at fault and proceed to solder it, thus ELIMINATING it as a
> trouble source. It's also a good trick to have up your sleeve if your
> home soldering job fails for any reason and you need to get your car
> to a safer area.
>
> Jason
>

Once you have removed the MR,why not resolder it anyways?
I've never heard of a resoldered relay failing again.
Use electrical solder,not pipe solder.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:<Xns944A192A64E2jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21>. ..
> Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
> news:BBF75EE0.12742%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:
>
> > On 12/6/03 9:01, in article
> > Xns94496623799EEjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> > <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
> >
>
>
> >> Geez,it's SO much easier (and safer!)to just resolder the main
> >> relay,ELIMINATING it as a trouble source.
> >
> >
> > Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the relay out of it's hiding spot
> > in my Civic and an additional 10 seconds to TEST it by replacing it
> > with jumper wires as described above. Since it did not run with the
> > relay, and did run with the jumpers, I could then be sure that the
> > relay was at fault and proceed to solder it, thus ELIMINATING it as a
> > trouble source. It's also a good trick to have up your sleeve if your
> > home soldering job fails for any reason and you need to get your car
> > to a safer area.
> >
> > Jason
> >
>
> Once you have removed the MR,why not resolder it anyways?
> I've never heard of a resoldered relay failing again.
> Use electrical solder,not pipe solder.

OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
Help!

TIA

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:<Xns944A192A64E2jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21>. ..
> Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
> news:BBF75EE0.12742%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:
>
> > On 12/6/03 9:01, in article
> > Xns94496623799EEjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> > <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
> >
>
>
> >> Geez,it's SO much easier (and safer!)to just resolder the main
> >> relay,ELIMINATING it as a trouble source.
> >
> >
> > Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the relay out of it's hiding spot
> > in my Civic and an additional 10 seconds to TEST it by replacing it
> > with jumper wires as described above. Since it did not run with the
> > relay, and did run with the jumpers, I could then be sure that the
> > relay was at fault and proceed to solder it, thus ELIMINATING it as a
> > trouble source. It's also a good trick to have up your sleeve if your
> > home soldering job fails for any reason and you need to get your car
> > to a safer area.
> >
> > Jason
> >
>
> Once you have removed the MR,why not resolder it anyways?
> I've never heard of a resoldered relay failing again.
> Use electrical solder,not pipe solder.

OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
Help!

TIA

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:<Xns944A192A64E2jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21>. ..
> Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
> news:BBF75EE0.12742%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:
>
> > On 12/6/03 9:01, in article
> > Xns94496623799EEjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> > <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
> >
>
>
> >> Geez,it's SO much easier (and safer!)to just resolder the main
> >> relay,ELIMINATING it as a trouble source.
> >
> >
> > Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the relay out of it's hiding spot
> > in my Civic and an additional 10 seconds to TEST it by replacing it
> > with jumper wires as described above. Since it did not run with the
> > relay, and did run with the jumpers, I could then be sure that the
> > relay was at fault and proceed to solder it, thus ELIMINATING it as a
> > trouble source. It's also a good trick to have up your sleeve if your
> > home soldering job fails for any reason and you need to get your car
> > to a safer area.
> >
> > Jason
> >
>
> Once you have removed the MR,why not resolder it anyways?
> I've never heard of a resoldered relay failing again.
> Use electrical solder,not pipe solder.

OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
Help!

TIA

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:<Xns944A192A64E2jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21>. ..
> Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
> news:BBF75EE0.12742%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:
>
> > On 12/6/03 9:01, in article
> > Xns94496623799EEjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> > <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
> >
>
>
> >> Geez,it's SO much easier (and safer!)to just resolder the main
> >> relay,ELIMINATING it as a trouble source.
> >
> >
> > Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the relay out of it's hiding spot
> > in my Civic and an additional 10 seconds to TEST it by replacing it
> > with jumper wires as described above. Since it did not run with the
> > relay, and did run with the jumpers, I could then be sure that the
> > relay was at fault and proceed to solder it, thus ELIMINATING it as a
> > trouble source. It's also a good trick to have up your sleeve if your
> > home soldering job fails for any reason and you need to get your car
> > to a safer area.
> >
> > Jason
> >
>
> Once you have removed the MR,why not resolder it anyways?
> I've never heard of a resoldered relay failing again.
> Use electrical solder,not pipe solder.

OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
Help!

TIA

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

== snip ===

>
> OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
> luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
> nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
> housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
> Help!
>
> TIA
>
> Raj

I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
plastic case is attached to :-(
I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

== snip ===

>
> OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
> luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
> nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
> housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
> Help!
>
> TIA
>
> Raj

I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
plastic case is attached to :-(
I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

== snip ===

>
> OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
> luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
> nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
> housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
> Help!
>
> TIA
>
> Raj

I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
plastic case is attached to :-(
I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

== snip ===

>
> OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
> luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
> nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
> housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
> Help!
>
> TIA
>
> Raj

I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
plastic case is attached to :-(
I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.

Raj