Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

I don't think you can get the relay out of it's housing while still
mounted. It's much easier to remove it and the housing than trying to
get it out of the housing in the car.

Heres a link to a great site to fix a main relay. It helped me
tremendously when I had the problem with my '91 Accord.
The cracked soldier joint was very hard to spot. Even when
knowing exactly what to look for. Mine was just a little mark on
one post (didn't even look like a crack). When un-soldiering this
joint the soldier melted differently than the other joints.

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm





On 7 Dec 2003 16:35:21 -0800, planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote:

>== snip ===
>
>>
>> OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
>> luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
>> nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
>> housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
>> Help!
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Raj
>
>I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
>same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
>plastic case is attached to :-(
> I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
>housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
>
>Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

I don't think you can get the relay out of it's housing while still
mounted. It's much easier to remove it and the housing than trying to
get it out of the housing in the car.

Heres a link to a great site to fix a main relay. It helped me
tremendously when I had the problem with my '91 Accord.
The cracked soldier joint was very hard to spot. Even when
knowing exactly what to look for. Mine was just a little mark on
one post (didn't even look like a crack). When un-soldiering this
joint the soldier melted differently than the other joints.

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm





On 7 Dec 2003 16:35:21 -0800, planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote:

>== snip ===
>
>>
>> OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
>> luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
>> nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
>> housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
>> Help!
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Raj
>
>I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
>same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
>plastic case is attached to :-(
> I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
>housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
>
>Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

I don't think you can get the relay out of it's housing while still
mounted. It's much easier to remove it and the housing than trying to
get it out of the housing in the car.

Heres a link to a great site to fix a main relay. It helped me
tremendously when I had the problem with my '91 Accord.
The cracked soldier joint was very hard to spot. Even when
knowing exactly what to look for. Mine was just a little mark on
one post (didn't even look like a crack). When un-soldiering this
joint the soldier melted differently than the other joints.

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm





On 7 Dec 2003 16:35:21 -0800, planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote:

>== snip ===
>
>>
>> OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
>> luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
>> nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
>> housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
>> Help!
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Raj
>
>I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
>same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
>plastic case is attached to :-(
> I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
>housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
>
>Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

I don't think you can get the relay out of it's housing while still
mounted. It's much easier to remove it and the housing than trying to
get it out of the housing in the car.

Heres a link to a great site to fix a main relay. It helped me
tremendously when I had the problem with my '91 Accord.
The cracked soldier joint was very hard to spot. Even when
knowing exactly what to look for. Mine was just a little mark on
one post (didn't even look like a crack). When un-soldiering this
joint the soldier melted differently than the other joints.

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm





On 7 Dec 2003 16:35:21 -0800, planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote:

>== snip ===
>
>>
>> OK guys. I got the silver CC out of the way, but am not having any
>> luck getting the relay out! The relay seems to be attached with one
>> nut and I can't get it to budge. I tried getting the relay out of it's
>> housing with a small flat screwdriver but no luck.
>> Help!
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Raj
>
>I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
>same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
>plastic case is attached to :-(
> I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
>housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
>
>Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<0uo7tv8dt1tbtp3u8hp3msqn47k49cu16u@4ax.com>. ..
== snip ==
> >
> >I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
> >same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
> >plastic case is attached to :-(
> > I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
> >housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
> >
> >Raj

I am envious of all of you who got the relay out in 5 minutes :-)
Man! What a bi*ch it was for me, because of the *other* plastic box
attached to one of the same screws as the relay and I could'nt get to
the other screw of the box!!!! Good thing the kids and wife were
inside 'cause I let it have it :-)
Anyway, the darned thing is out and most of the solder joint bases are
RUSTED!
Anyone seen that before? I am not going to bother soldering it,
instead will get a new one tomorrow. Hopefully this was the cause of
my problems. Will keep you guys posted.
As always THANKS for all the help.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<0uo7tv8dt1tbtp3u8hp3msqn47k49cu16u@4ax.com>. ..
== snip ==
> >
> >I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
> >same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
> >plastic case is attached to :-(
> > I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
> >housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
> >
> >Raj

I am envious of all of you who got the relay out in 5 minutes :-)
Man! What a bi*ch it was for me, because of the *other* plastic box
attached to one of the same screws as the relay and I could'nt get to
the other screw of the box!!!! Good thing the kids and wife were
inside 'cause I let it have it :-)
Anyway, the darned thing is out and most of the solder joint bases are
RUSTED!
Anyone seen that before? I am not going to bother soldering it,
instead will get a new one tomorrow. Hopefully this was the cause of
my problems. Will keep you guys posted.
As always THANKS for all the help.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<0uo7tv8dt1tbtp3u8hp3msqn47k49cu16u@4ax.com>. ..
== snip ==
> >
> >I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
> >same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
> >plastic case is attached to :-(
> > I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
> >housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
> >
> >Raj

I am envious of all of you who got the relay out in 5 minutes :-)
Man! What a bi*ch it was for me, because of the *other* plastic box
attached to one of the same screws as the relay and I could'nt get to
the other screw of the box!!!! Good thing the kids and wife were
inside 'cause I let it have it :-)
Anyway, the darned thing is out and most of the solder joint bases are
RUSTED!
Anyone seen that before? I am not going to bother soldering it,
instead will get a new one tomorrow. Hopefully this was the cause of
my problems. Will keep you guys posted.
As always THANKS for all the help.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<0uo7tv8dt1tbtp3u8hp3msqn47k49cu16u@4ax.com>. ..
== snip ==
> >
> >I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
> >same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
> >plastic case is attached to :-(
> > I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
> >housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
> >
> >Raj

I am envious of all of you who got the relay out in 5 minutes :-)
Man! What a bi*ch it was for me, because of the *other* plastic box
attached to one of the same screws as the relay and I could'nt get to
the other screw of the box!!!! Good thing the kids and wife were
inside 'cause I let it have it :-)
Anyway, the darned thing is out and most of the solder joint bases are
RUSTED!
Anyone seen that before? I am not going to bother soldering it,
instead will get a new one tomorrow. Hopefully this was the cause of
my problems. Will keep you guys posted.
As always THANKS for all the help.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up
from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it
standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in
there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better!

There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long
Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of
the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay
sounds like a good thing.



On 8 Dec 2003 16:59:37 -0800, planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote:

>NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<0uo7tv8dt1tbtp3u8hp3msqn47k49cu16u@4ax.com>. ..
>== snip ==
>> >
>> >I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
>> >same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
>> >plastic case is attached to :-(
>> > I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
>> >housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
>> >
>> >Raj
>
>I am envious of all of you who got the relay out in 5 minutes :-)
>Man! What a bi*ch it was for me, because of the *other* plastic box
>attached to one of the same screws as the relay and I could'nt get to
>the other screw of the box!!!! Good thing the kids and wife were
>inside 'cause I let it have it :-)
>Anyway, the darned thing is out and most of the solder joint bases are
>RUSTED!
>Anyone seen that before? I am not going to bother soldering it,
>instead will get a new one tomorrow. Hopefully this was the cause of
>my problems. Will keep you guys posted.
>As always THANKS for all the help.
>
>Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up
from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it
standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in
there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better!

There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long
Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of
the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay
sounds like a good thing.



On 8 Dec 2003 16:59:37 -0800, planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote:

>NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<0uo7tv8dt1tbtp3u8hp3msqn47k49cu16u@4ax.com>. ..
>== snip ==
>> >
>> >I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
>> >same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
>> >plastic case is attached to :-(
>> > I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
>> >housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
>> >
>> >Raj
>
>I am envious of all of you who got the relay out in 5 minutes :-)
>Man! What a bi*ch it was for me, because of the *other* plastic box
>attached to one of the same screws as the relay and I could'nt get to
>the other screw of the box!!!! Good thing the kids and wife were
>inside 'cause I let it have it :-)
>Anyway, the darned thing is out and most of the solder joint bases are
>RUSTED!
>Anyone seen that before? I am not going to bother soldering it,
>instead will get a new one tomorrow. Hopefully this was the cause of
>my problems. Will keep you guys posted.
>As always THANKS for all the help.
>
>Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up
from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it
standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in
there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better!

There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long
Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of
the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay
sounds like a good thing.



On 8 Dec 2003 16:59:37 -0800, planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote:

>NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<0uo7tv8dt1tbtp3u8hp3msqn47k49cu16u@4ax.com>. ..
>== snip ==
>> >
>> >I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
>> >same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
>> >plastic case is attached to :-(
>> > I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
>> >housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
>> >
>> >Raj
>
>I am envious of all of you who got the relay out in 5 minutes :-)
>Man! What a bi*ch it was for me, because of the *other* plastic box
>attached to one of the same screws as the relay and I could'nt get to
>the other screw of the box!!!! Good thing the kids and wife were
>inside 'cause I let it have it :-)
>Anyway, the darned thing is out and most of the solder joint bases are
>RUSTED!
>Anyone seen that before? I am not going to bother soldering it,
>instead will get a new one tomorrow. Hopefully this was the cause of
>my problems. Will keep you guys posted.
>As always THANKS for all the help.
>
>Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up
from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it
standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in
there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better!

There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long
Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of
the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay
sounds like a good thing.



On 8 Dec 2003 16:59:37 -0800, planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote:

>NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<0uo7tv8dt1tbtp3u8hp3msqn47k49cu16u@4ax.com>. ..
>== snip ==
>> >
>> >I got the bolt out but another black plastic case is attached to the
>> >same bolt *above* the relay and I can't reach the second bolt this
>> >plastic case is attached to :-(
>> > I also am unable to remove the connector or the relay out of it's
>> >housing. How do I get the relay out of it's housing? TIA.
>> >
>> >Raj
>
>I am envious of all of you who got the relay out in 5 minutes :-)
>Man! What a bi*ch it was for me, because of the *other* plastic box
>attached to one of the same screws as the relay and I could'nt get to
>the other screw of the box!!!! Good thing the kids and wife were
>inside 'cause I let it have it :-)
>Anyway, the darned thing is out and most of the solder joint bases are
>RUSTED!
>Anyone seen that before? I am not going to bother soldering it,
>instead will get a new one tomorrow. Hopefully this was the cause of
>my problems. Will keep you guys posted.
>As always THANKS for all the help.
>
>Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com>. ..
> Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up
> from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it
> standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in
> there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better!
>
> There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long
> Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of
> the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay
> sounds like a good thing.
>
>== snip ===

I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks,
car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ...
Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up
jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because
the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died.
Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ...
nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another
problem just happened to show up?

Thanks.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com>. ..
> Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up
> from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it
> standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in
> there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better!
>
> There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long
> Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of
> the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay
> sounds like a good thing.
>
>== snip ===

I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks,
car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ...
Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up
jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because
the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died.
Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ...
nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another
problem just happened to show up?

Thanks.

Raj

Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
 

NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com>. ..
> Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up
> from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it
> standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in
> there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better!
>
> There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long
> Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of
> the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay
> sounds like a good thing.
>
>== snip ===

I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks,
car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ...
Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up
jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because
the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died.
Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ...
nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another
problem just happened to show up?

Thanks.

Raj