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Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com>. ..
> Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! > > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay > sounds like a good thing. > >== snip === I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another problem just happened to show up? Thanks. Raj |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
In article <7690289c.0312091849.24e4be5c@posting.google.com >,
planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com>. .. > > Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up > > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it > > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in > > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! > > > > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long > > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of > > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay > > sounds like a good thing. > > > >== snip === > > I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, > car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... > Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up > jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because > the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. > Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... > nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another > problem just happened to show up? > > Thanks. > > Raj It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and have him figure out what is wrong with it. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
In article <7690289c.0312091849.24e4be5c@posting.google.com >,
planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com>. .. > > Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up > > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it > > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in > > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! > > > > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long > > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of > > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay > > sounds like a good thing. > > > >== snip === > > I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, > car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... > Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up > jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because > the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. > Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... > nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another > problem just happened to show up? > > Thanks. > > Raj It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and have him figure out what is wrong with it. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
In article <7690289c.0312091849.24e4be5c@posting.google.com >,
planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com>. .. > > Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up > > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it > > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in > > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! > > > > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long > > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of > > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay > > sounds like a good thing. > > > >== snip === > > I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, > car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... > Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up > jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because > the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. > Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... > nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another > problem just happened to show up? > > Thanks. > > Raj It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and have him figure out what is wrong with it. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
In article <7690289c.0312091849.24e4be5c@posting.google.com >,
planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com>. .. > > Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up > > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it > > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in > > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! > > > > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long > > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of > > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay > > sounds like a good thing. > > > >== snip === > > I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, > car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... > Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up > jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because > the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. > Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... > nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another > problem just happened to show up? > > Thanks. > > Raj It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and have him figure out what is wrong with it. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look
at. Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work then). You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:04:05 -0800, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote: >In article <7690289c.0312091849.24e4be5c@posting.google.com >, >planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > >> NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message >news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com> ... >> > Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up >> > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it >> > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in >> > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! >> > >> > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long >> > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of >> > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay >> > sounds like a good thing. >> > >> >== snip === >> >> I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, >> car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... >> Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up >> jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because >> the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. >> Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... >> nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another >> problem just happened to show up? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Raj > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and >have him figure out what is wrong with it. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look
at. Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work then). You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:04:05 -0800, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote: >In article <7690289c.0312091849.24e4be5c@posting.google.com >, >planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > >> NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message >news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com> ... >> > Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up >> > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it >> > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in >> > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! >> > >> > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long >> > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of >> > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay >> > sounds like a good thing. >> > >> >== snip === >> >> I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, >> car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... >> Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up >> jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because >> the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. >> Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... >> nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another >> problem just happened to show up? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Raj > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and >have him figure out what is wrong with it. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look
at. Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work then). You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:04:05 -0800, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote: >In article <7690289c.0312091849.24e4be5c@posting.google.com >, >planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > >> NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message >news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com> ... >> > Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up >> > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it >> > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in >> > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! >> > >> > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long >> > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of >> > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay >> > sounds like a good thing. >> > >> >== snip === >> >> I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, >> car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... >> Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up >> jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because >> the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. >> Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... >> nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another >> problem just happened to show up? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Raj > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and >have him figure out what is wrong with it. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look
at. Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work then). You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:04:05 -0800, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote: >In article <7690289c.0312091849.24e4be5c@posting.google.com >, >planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > >> NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message >news:<oikctvo6rdbhvfe2kfjuq25ftqtqojaf2t@4ax.com> ... >> > Oh, it wasn't 5 minutes for me either. Nor fun! I think I got up >> > from being on my back a little frustrated and thought about it >> > standing up. Then realized there wasn't an easier way. Just get in >> > there somehow and get it out. Getting it back in wasn't much better! >> > >> > There wasn't any rust on mine and it's pretty damp here on Long >> > Island. I wonder if you have a windshield leak? Or had the inside of >> > the car get very wet and not dry for quite a while. A new relay >> > sounds like a good thing. >> > >> >== snip === >> >> I am Northern NJ, not entire different weather conditions. No leaks, >> car is dry inside. I don't know why the relay could be rusted ... >> Anyway, I put a new relay in tonight. The battery had died so I set up >> jump from my van, turned the key to on, heard clicks, beeps because >> the door was open, then I tried to start the car and every thing died. >> Engine wouldn't even crank. Turned the key to off and tried again ... >> nothing.... all's dead. Do you think I blew something? Or another >> problem just happened to show up? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Raj > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and >have him figure out what is wrong with it. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<m3bftvg48t70851eksoc5771ulerq64ifb@4ax.com>. ..
> I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look > at. > > Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the > battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. > I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If > there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work > then). > > You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did > before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old > one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector > and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump > and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. == snip == > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if > >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it > >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to > >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and > >have him figure out what is wrong with it. We are on the same page here. So I reinstalled the new relay last night and I got the engine light, fuel pump whirr, and enginer did crank, but wouldn't start. Now the battery on the Accord is completely dead and it is possible that Odyssey's battery just couldn't do it. Does that sound like a possibility? TIA. Raj |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<m3bftvg48t70851eksoc5771ulerq64ifb@4ax.com>. ..
> I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look > at. > > Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the > battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. > I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If > there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work > then). > > You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did > before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old > one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector > and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump > and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. == snip == > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if > >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it > >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to > >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and > >have him figure out what is wrong with it. We are on the same page here. So I reinstalled the new relay last night and I got the engine light, fuel pump whirr, and enginer did crank, but wouldn't start. Now the battery on the Accord is completely dead and it is possible that Odyssey's battery just couldn't do it. Does that sound like a possibility? TIA. Raj |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<m3bftvg48t70851eksoc5771ulerq64ifb@4ax.com>. ..
> I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look > at. > > Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the > battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. > I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If > there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work > then). > > You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did > before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old > one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector > and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump > and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. == snip == > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if > >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it > >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to > >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and > >have him figure out what is wrong with it. We are on the same page here. So I reinstalled the new relay last night and I got the engine light, fuel pump whirr, and enginer did crank, but wouldn't start. Now the battery on the Accord is completely dead and it is possible that Odyssey's battery just couldn't do it. Does that sound like a possibility? TIA. Raj |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<m3bftvg48t70851eksoc5771ulerq64ifb@4ax.com>. ..
> I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look > at. > > Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the > battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. > I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If > there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work > then). > > You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did > before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old > one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector > and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump > and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. == snip == > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if > >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it > >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to > >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and > >have him figure out what is wrong with it. We are on the same page here. So I reinstalled the new relay last night and I got the engine light, fuel pump whirr, and enginer did crank, but wouldn't start. Now the battery on the Accord is completely dead and it is possible that Odyssey's battery just couldn't do it. Does that sound like a possibility? TIA. Raj |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
In article <7690289c.0312110254.51ea7bb2@posting.google.com >,
planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<m3bftvg48t70851eksoc5771ulerq64ifb@4ax.com>. .. > > I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look > > at. > > > > Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the > > battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. > > I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If > > there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work > > then). > > > > You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did > > before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old > > one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector > > and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump > > and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. > > == snip == > > > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if > > >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it > > >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to > > >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and > > >have him figure out what is wrong with it. > > We are on the same page here. So I reinstalled the new relay last > night and I got the engine light, fuel pump whirr, and enginer did > crank, but wouldn't start. Now the battery on the Accord is completely > dead and it is possible that Odyssey's battery just couldn't do it. > Does that sound like a possibility? > > TIA. > > Raj I learned a little trick about jump starting several years ago. When the battery is totally dead or almost totally dead, use this trick or tip. Connect the jumper cables and start the vehicle that has the good battery. Wait about 5 minutes before you try to start the vehicle with the dead battery.If it does not start--wait 5 more minutes before you try again. |
Re: 91 Accord doesn't start
In article <7690289c.0312110254.51ea7bb2@posting.google.com >,
planet_first@yahoo.com (Raj) wrote: > NomoreRGS <fishman@fish.net> wrote in message news:<m3bftvg48t70851eksoc5771ulerq64ifb@4ax.com>. .. > > I agree with your advice. There are a few other things you can look > > at. > > > > Does anything electrical work in the car? If not sounds like the > > battery is dead and you didn't get a good connection when jumping it. > > I don't know if there is a main fuse or fuseable link the Accord. If > > there is and it's burnt that could be the problem (nothing would work > > then). > > > > You can also try the old relay again to see if it behaves as it did > > before the swap. The new one doesn't have to be removed and the old > > one mounted as long as there is enough wire to remove the connector > > and get it on the old relay. I believe the relay is for the fuel pump > > and ECU only and has nothing to do with the starting circuit. > > == snip == > > > >It's possible that something else went wrong but I doubt it. I wonder if > > >the new relay was defective or if you failed to install or connect it > > >properly. You might want to check all electrical connections related to > > >the relay. If all else fails, have it towed to your favorite mechanic and > > >have him figure out what is wrong with it. > > We are on the same page here. So I reinstalled the new relay last > night and I got the engine light, fuel pump whirr, and enginer did > crank, but wouldn't start. Now the battery on the Accord is completely > dead and it is possible that Odyssey's battery just couldn't do it. > Does that sound like a possibility? > > TIA. > > Raj I learned a little trick about jump starting several years ago. When the battery is totally dead or almost totally dead, use this trick or tip. Connect the jumper cables and start the vehicle that has the good battery. Wait about 5 minutes before you try to start the vehicle with the dead battery.If it does not start--wait 5 more minutes before you try again. |
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