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Guy 01-24-2010 12:45 AM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:39:39 -0600, "Guy" <void@void.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:28:49 -0600, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/23/2010 04:54 PM, jim wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > jim beam wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> /what/ iron in exhaust valves? you evidently didn't bother to read the
>>> >> exhaust valve alloy cite i gave you. you still carefully snipped it though.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I didn't see anything on that web page that would suggest your valves
>>> > are not mostly made of iron. you can google all you want, but the main
>>> > constituent of your valve is still iron.
>>>
>>> "you can google all you want, but the main constituent of your valve is
>>> still iron"
>>>
>>> translation: "you don't agree with facts, so you're just going to ignore
>>> them". way to go dude.
>>>

>>
>>I didn't ignore anything. The page contained a listing of different
>>types of steels used in valves.
>>
>>Can't you read the first sentence:
>>
>>"Valve Steels - Various steels are available, these include the
>>following:"

>
>
>
>
>Either I'm sleepy or my newsreader is messing up so I'll give this one
>more try to post to the correct person.....
>
>Jim, you're just too nice dealing with that dipshit (to use his own
>words). You know I don't recall with all his name calling, you ever
>called him back a name. You"re one helluva polite guy <g> !!!!



Looks to me like my newsreader is bad so I'm going to post this under
my name now......I'll figure what is wrong tomorrow morning.

Bottom line is Jim is just too nice and Jim Beam is a dipshit (using
his own words).

jim beam 01-24-2010 10:56 AM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On 01/23/2010 07:28 PM, jim wrote:
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>>
>> On 01/23/2010 04:54 PM, jim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> /what/ iron in exhaust valves? you evidently didn't bother to read the
>>>> exhaust valve alloy cite i gave you. you still carefully snipped it though.
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't see anything on that web page that would suggest your valves
>>> are not mostly made of iron. you can google all you want, but the main
>>> constituent of your valve is still iron.

>>
>> "you can google all you want, but the main constituent of your valve is
>> still iron"
>>
>> translation: "you don't agree with facts, so you're just going to ignore
>> them". way to go dude.
>>

>
> I didn't ignore anything. The page contained a listing of different
> types of steels used in valves.
>
> Can't you read the first sentence:
>
> "Valve Steels - Various steels are available, these include the
> following:"


nimonics aren't steels, dipshit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimonic

and for the steels, three of those listed aren't used any more! but for
the ones that are, read the alloy numbers, look them up and note their
alloying proportions. a massively dumbed down analogy for you [sic]: if
you mix charcoal with sand, how well does it burn? [rhetorical]

jim beam 01-24-2010 10:57 AM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On 01/23/2010 09:45 PM, Guy wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:39:39 -0600, "Guy"<void@void.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:28:49 -0600, jim<"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 01/23/2010 04:54 PM, jim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /what/ iron in exhaust valves? you evidently didn't bother to read the
>>>>>> exhaust valve alloy cite i gave you. you still carefully snipped it though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't see anything on that web page that would suggest your valves
>>>>> are not mostly made of iron. you can google all you want, but the main
>>>>> constituent of your valve is still iron.
>>>>
>>>> "you can google all you want, but the main constituent of your valve is
>>>> still iron"
>>>>
>>>> translation: "you don't agree with facts, so you're just going to ignore
>>>> them". way to go dude.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't ignore anything. The page contained a listing of different
>>> types of steels used in valves.
>>>
>>> Can't you read the first sentence:
>>>
>>> "Valve Steels - Various steels are available, these include the
>>> following:"

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Either I'm sleepy or my newsreader is messing up so I'll give this one
>> more try to post to the correct person.....
>>
>> Jim, you're just too nice dealing with that dipshit (to use his own
>> words). You know I don't recall with all his name calling, you ever
>> called him back a name. You"re one helluva polite guy<g> !!!!

>
>
> Looks to me like my newsreader is bad so I'm going to post this under
> my name now......I'll figure what is wrong tomorrow morning.
>
> Bottom line is Jim is just too nice and Jim Beam is a dipshit (using
> his own words).


five posts to up each and every time??? idiot drunken retard.

jim 01-24-2010 11:25 AM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
As I said before. There is nothing on that page that even vaguely suggests your
valves are not made from mostly iron . Eaton corp. makes the valves for North
American Hondas. and they say their automotive valves are steel (typically around 75%
iron). They do make some exotic alloys that are used for motorcycle valves but not
automobiles.



jim beam wrote: nothing meaningful




jim beam 01-24-2010 12:13 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On 01/24/2010 08:25 AM, jim wrote:
> As I said before. There is nothing on that page that even vaguely suggests your
> valves are not made from mostly iron .


yes there is - look up the compositions for the alloy numbers!!!! and
having had this repeated to you multiple times, aren't you starting to
have the slightest suspicion that once alloyed, a material's properties
might change? otherwise, wouldn't we all be using pure elementals?


> Eaton corp. makes the valves for North
> American Hondas. and they say their automotive valves are steel (typically around 75%
> iron). They do make some exotic alloys that are used for motorcycle valves but not
> automobiles.


red herring. it doesn't matter /who/ makes them or /what/ you say they
say. fact is, these alloys comply with spec - as outlined in the cites
i gave you.


> jim beam wrote: nothing meaningful


dude, even a single-celled organism is more receptive to learning
than you. you consistently snip and avoid everything that directly
contradicts you, and just keep on repeating the same ignorant bullshit.
why? [rhetorical] you may be bent because you don't like being shown
to be a retard, but there's no excuse for continuing to piss in the
knowledge pool with stuff that is just plain wrong.



jim 01-24-2010 12:31 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
I'll take the OEMs' word for it over your contorted and twisted logic as to how that web
page (plus some additional unspecified googling) tells you anything about Honda exhaust
valves.

jim beam once again wrote:

nothing meaningful.




jim beam 01-24-2010 12:34 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On 01/24/2010 09:31 AM, jim wrote:
> I'll take the OEMs' word for it over your contorted and twisted logic as to how that web
> page (plus some additional unspecified googling) tells you anything about Honda exhaust
> valves.


dude, read the ing cites. exhaust valve alloys are chosen because
of heat and burn resistance. end of story. stop your denial.


>
> jim beam once again wrote:
>
> nothing meaningful.


idiot.

Guy 01-24-2010 12:48 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:57:18 -0600, "Guy" <void@void.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:28:49 -0600, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/23/2010 04:54 PM, jim wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > jim beam wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> /what/ iron in exhaust valves? you evidently didn't bother to read the
>>> >> exhaust valve alloy cite i gave you. you still carefully snipped it though.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I didn't see anything on that web page that would suggest your valves
>>> > are not mostly made of iron. you can google all you want, but the main
>>> > constituent of your valve is still iron.
>>>
>>> "you can google all you want, but the main constituent of your valve is
>>> still iron"
>>>
>>> translation: "you don't agree with facts, so you're just going to ignore
>>> them". way to go dude.
>>>

>>
>>I didn't ignore anything. The page contained a listing of different
>>types of steels used in valves.
>>
>>Can't you read the first sentence:
>>
>>"Valve Steels - Various steels are available, these include the
>>following:"

>
>
>Jim, you're just too nice dealing with that dipshit (to use his own
>words). You know I don't recall with all his name calling, you ever
>called him back a name. You"re one helluva polite guy <g> !!!!



test

Guy 01-24-2010 12:50 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:45:49 -0600, "Guy" <void@void.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:39:39 -0600, "Guy" <void@void.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:28:49 -0600, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>jim beam wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 01/23/2010 04:54 PM, jim wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > jim beam wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> /what/ iron in exhaust valves? you evidently didn't bother to read the
>>>> >> exhaust valve alloy cite i gave you. you still carefully snipped it though.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I didn't see anything on that web page that would suggest your valves
>>>> > are not mostly made of iron. you can google all you want, but the main
>>>> > constituent of your valve is still iron.
>>>>
>>>> "you can google all you want, but the main constituent of your valve is
>>>> still iron"
>>>>
>>>> translation: "you don't agree with facts, so you're just going to ignore
>>>> them". way to go dude.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I didn't ignore anything. The page contained a listing of different
>>>types of steels used in valves.
>>>
>>>Can't you read the first sentence:
>>>
>>>"Valve Steels - Various steels are available, these include the
>>>following:"

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Either I'm sleepy or my newsreader is messing up so I'll give this one
>>more try to post to the correct person.....
>>
>>Jim, you're just too nice dealing with that dipshit (to use his own
>>words). You know I don't recall with all his name calling, you ever
>>called him back a name. You"re one helluva polite guy <g> !!!!

>
>
>Looks to me like my newsreader is bad so I'm going to post this under
>my name now......I'll figure what is wrong tomorrow morning.
>
>Bottom line is Jim is just too nice and Jim Beam is a dipshit (using
>his own words).



test

Guy 01-24-2010 12:57 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:57:12 -0800, jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 01/23/2010 09:45 PM, Guy wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:39:39 -0600, "Guy"<void@void.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:28:49 -0600, jim<"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/23/2010 04:54 PM, jim wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /what/ iron in exhaust valves? you evidently didn't bother to read the
>>>>>>> exhaust valve alloy cite i gave you. you still carefully snipped it though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't see anything on that web page that would suggest your valves
>>>>>> are not mostly made of iron. you can google all you want, but the main
>>>>>> constituent of your valve is still iron.
>>>>>
>>>>> "you can google all you want, but the main constituent of your valve is
>>>>> still iron"
>>>>>
>>>>> translation: "you don't agree with facts, so you're just going to ignore
>>>>> them". way to go dude.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't ignore anything. The page contained a listing of different
>>>> types of steels used in valves.
>>>>
>>>> Can't you read the first sentence:
>>>>
>>>> "Valve Steels - Various steels are available, these include the
>>>> following:"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Either I'm sleepy or my newsreader is messing up so I'll give this one
>>> more try to post to the correct person.....
>>>
>>> Jim, you're just too nice dealing with that dipshit (to use his own
>>> words). You know I don't recall with all his name calling, you ever
>>> called him back a name. You"re one helluva polite guy<g> !!!!

>>
>>
>> Looks to me like my newsreader is bad so I'm going to post this under
>> my name now......I'll figure what is wrong tomorrow morning.
>>
>> Bottom line is Jim is just too nice and Jim Beam is a dipshit (using
>> his own words).

>
>five posts to up each and every time??? idiot drunken retard.


No that's you.
The problem is the software but I have yet to find the setting unless
it's built in. I doubt this will show correctly at my end after this
post is posted. Maybe it will show correctly at your end.

jim beam 01-24-2010 01:02 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On 01/24/2010 09:57 AM, Guy wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:57:12 -0800, jim beam<me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On 01/23/2010 09:45 PM, Guy wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:39:39 -0600, "Guy"<void@void.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:28:49 -0600, jim<"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/23/2010 04:54 PM, jim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /what/ iron in exhaust valves? you evidently didn't bother to read the
>>>>>>>> exhaust valve alloy cite i gave you. you still carefully snipped it though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't see anything on that web page that would suggest your valves
>>>>>>> are not mostly made of iron. you can google all you want, but the main
>>>>>>> constituent of your valve is still iron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "you can google all you want, but the main constituent of your valve is
>>>>>> still iron"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> translation: "you don't agree with facts, so you're just going to ignore
>>>>>> them". way to go dude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't ignore anything. The page contained a listing of different
>>>>> types of steels used in valves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't you read the first sentence:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Valve Steels - Various steels are available, these include the
>>>>> following:"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Either I'm sleepy or my newsreader is messing up so I'll give this one
>>>> more try to post to the correct person.....
>>>>
>>>> Jim, you're just too nice dealing with that dipshit (to use his own
>>>> words). You know I don't recall with all his name calling, you ever
>>>> called him back a name. You"re one helluva polite guy<g> !!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks to me like my newsreader is bad so I'm going to post this under
>>> my name now......I'll figure what is wrong tomorrow morning.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is Jim is just too nice and Jim Beam is a dipshit (using
>>> his own words).

>>
>> five posts to up each and every time??? idiot drunken retard.

>
> No that's you.
> The problem is the software but I have yet to find the setting unless
> it's built in. I doubt this will show correctly at my end after this
> post is posted. Maybe it will show correctly at your end.


/nothing/ you post shows correctly at my end - it's always looks like
retarded drivel of an attention-seeking idiot that can't wipe his own ass.



Guy 01-24-2010 01:52 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:02:16 -0800, jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 01/24/2010 09:57 AM, Guy wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:57:12 -0800, jim beam<me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/23/2010 09:45 PM, Guy wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:39:39 -0600, "Guy"<void@void.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:28:49 -0600, jim<"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/23/2010 04:54 PM, jim wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /what/ iron in exhaust valves? you evidently didn't bother to read the
>>>>>>>>> exhaust valve alloy cite i gave you. you still carefully snipped it though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't see anything on that web page that would suggest your valves
>>>>>>>> are not mostly made of iron. you can google all you want, but the main
>>>>>>>> constituent of your valve is still iron.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "you can google all you want, but the main constituent of your valve is
>>>>>>> still iron"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> translation: "you don't agree with facts, so you're just going to ignore
>>>>>>> them". way to go dude.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't ignore anything. The page contained a listing of different
>>>>>> types of steels used in valves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't you read the first sentence:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Valve Steels - Various steels are available, these include the
>>>>>> following:"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Either I'm sleepy or my newsreader is messing up so I'll give this one
>>>>> more try to post to the correct person.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim, you're just too nice dealing with that dipshit (to use his own
>>>>> words). You know I don't recall with all his name calling, you ever
>>>>> called him back a name. You"re one helluva polite guy<g> !!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks to me like my newsreader is bad so I'm going to post this under
>>>> my name now......I'll figure what is wrong tomorrow morning.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line is Jim is just too nice and Jim Beam is a dipshit (using
>>>> his own words).
>>>
>>> five posts to up each and every time??? idiot drunken retard.

>>
>> No that's you.
>> The problem is the software but I have yet to find the setting unless
>> it's built in. I doubt this will show correctly at my end after this
>> post is posted. Maybe it will show correctly at your end.

>
>/nothing/ you post shows correctly at my end - it's always looks like
>retarded drivel of an attention-seeking idiot that can't wipe his own ass.
>


You sound like you talk outa your ass.

jim 01-24-2010 02:43 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 


jim beam wrote:

> On 01/24/2010 09:31 AM, jim wrote:
> > I'll take the OEMs' word for it over your contorted and twisted logic as to how that web
> > page (plus some additional unspecified googling) tells you anything about Honda exhaust
> > valves.

>
> dude, read the ing cites. exhaust valve alloys are chosen because
> of heat and burn resistance. end of story. stop your denial.
>


You would have to say something first before I could deny it. You have said nothing.





E. Meyer 01-24-2010 03:03 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 



On 1/23/10 9:45 PM, in article LmP6n.5178$kQ5.2790@newsfe08.iad, "Greg"
<nospam@null.net> wrote:

>
>>>>> A CR-V will not require anything super dooper. When buying, look for an
>>>>> "Oil Change Special" (oil + filter) at the local parts store and call it
>>>>> good!
>>>>>
>>>> A US Market CR-V requires 5W20 weight oil per the mfr. You're not likely
>>>> to
>>>> find that at any "oil change special" unless its the Honda dealer. If you
>>>> run anything else in it, they could invalidate the warranty if there are
>>>> any
>>>> oil related engine problems.
>>>>
>>> The Oil Change specials at every place I have been to cover 5w20.

>>
>> OK & that is the point - make sure the "special" actually covers what your
>> car requires.

>
> Yea.... Buying the appropriate viscosity oil was sorta implied! :)
>
> I had places like Auto Zone and Kragen in mind; not the guy on the
> corner, selling who-knows-what out the back of his pickup!


I misread your intent. I was thinking the "$29.95 special" at quicky-lube
or similar where you don't have any idea what they're doing or using most of
the time.


jim beam 01-24-2010 03:17 PM

Re: new Honda CR-V break in
 
On 01/24/2010 11:43 AM, jim wrote:
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> On 01/24/2010 09:31 AM, jim wrote:
>>> I'll take the OEMs' word for it over your contorted and twisted logic as to how that web
>>> page (plus some additional unspecified googling) tells you anything about Honda exhaust
>>> valves.

>>
>> dude, read the ing cites. exhaust valve alloys are chosen because
>> of heat and burn resistance. end of story. stop your denial.
>>

>
> You would have to say something first before I could deny it. You have said nothing.
>


wow, denial /and/ delusion!!!

idiot.




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