Shaman

I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and welded.
My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want a
brand new car been sanded and re-painted.

Anybody experienced this?
What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?

Thanks for advices

Shaman

Edwin Pawlowski

"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Anybody experienced this?
> What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
>

You don't want the paint, yet you don't want it repainted. What is your
suggestion for a fix? They sure as hell will not be giving you a new car.

While factory paint is usually pretty good compared to the corner body shop,
there are many shops with sophisticated equipment for spraying, ovens for
drying that will out do just about any factory. Find out who is going to do
the work and check them out.

Edwin Pawlowski

"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Anybody experienced this?
> What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
>

You don't want the paint, yet you don't want it repainted. What is your
suggestion for a fix? They sure as hell will not be giving you a new car.

While factory paint is usually pretty good compared to the corner body shop,
there are many shops with sophisticated equipment for spraying, ovens for
drying that will out do just about any factory. Find out who is going to do
the work and check them out.

Shaman

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
%2IPg.3077$e66.1113@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> You don't want the paint, yet you don't want it repainted. What is your
> suggestion for a fix? They sure as hell will not be giving you a new car.
>
> While factory paint is usually pretty good compared to the corner body
> shop, there are many shops with sophisticated equipment for spraying,
> ovens for drying that will out do just about any factory. Find out who is
> going to do the work and check them out.
>
As long as it costs me 0$, there is no big deal. I do not expect a new car,
but maybe some kind of "gift". But my basic question is "does anybody
experienced the same problems with their new Sonata V6 2006 color crystal
silver"?

Shaman

Shaman

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
%2IPg.3077$e66.1113@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> You don't want the paint, yet you don't want it repainted. What is your
> suggestion for a fix? They sure as hell will not be giving you a new car.
>
> While factory paint is usually pretty good compared to the corner body
> shop, there are many shops with sophisticated equipment for spraying,
> ovens for drying that will out do just about any factory. Find out who is
> going to do the work and check them out.
>
As long as it costs me 0$, there is no big deal. I do not expect a new car,
but maybe some kind of "gift". But my basic question is "does anybody
experienced the same problems with their new Sonata V6 2006 color crystal
silver"?

Shaman

Mike Marlow

"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:_LHPg.39320$Ai5.982125@weber.videotron.net...
> I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
> is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
> bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
> inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and
welded.
> My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want
a
> brand new car been sanded and re-painted.
>
> Anybody experienced this?
> What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
>

Why not? Getting it painted is every bit as good as the factory paint job.
I do agree that you should not be experiencing this problem on a new car,
but things do happen.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:_LHPg.39320$Ai5.982125@weber.videotron.net...
> I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
> is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
> bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
> inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and
welded.
> My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want
a
> brand new car been sanded and re-painted.
>
> Anybody experienced this?
> What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
>

Why not? Getting it painted is every bit as good as the factory paint job.
I do agree that you should not be experiencing this problem on a new car,
but things do happen.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

razz

My 2001 V-6 sonata, just came off warranty in march, and I've experienced
paint bubbling on all 4 door handles. I had complained to them before it
went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere but
on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer on
the handles. I worked in a auto factory, and all our painters there had
agreed that there was no proper prep work done on the plastic handles. I
went to both dealers in my city and they told me to bad off warranty. So
much for there 5 year bumper to bumper warranty. That is pure bullshit. I
then proceeded to contact Hyundai Canada, and never contacted me about this
problem. I also took it to one of the best painters in town and they told me
the same thing..........bad prep work. I'm out of luck on this one. So
I e-mailed the big kuhuna in Korea, and no word from them either. Customer
service is not their priority I guess. Well I won't be buying another one of
their cars ever again. There has been other issues with the car that never
got resolved by them either when it was still under warranty. I had to fix
it myself and out of my own pocket. Never, ever had this kind of problem
with domestics. I worked as a toy mechanic a few years back, better customer
relations, but their cars are over priced and are no better than domestics.
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:ca2c1$450f5b51$471fbb8f$17579@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_LHPg.39320$Ai5.982125@weber.videotron.net...
> > I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the
paint
> > is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk.
The
> > bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
> > inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and
> welded.
> > My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't
want
> a
> > brand new car been sanded and re-painted.
> >
> > Anybody experienced this?
> > What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
> >
>
> Why not? Getting it painted is every bit as good as the factory paint
job.
> I do agree that you should not be experiencing this problem on a new car,
> but things do happen.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

razz

My 2001 V-6 sonata, just came off warranty in march, and I've experienced
paint bubbling on all 4 door handles. I had complained to them before it
went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere but
on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer on
the handles. I worked in a auto factory, and all our painters there had
agreed that there was no proper prep work done on the plastic handles. I
went to both dealers in my city and they told me to bad off warranty. So
much for there 5 year bumper to bumper warranty. That is pure bullshit. I
then proceeded to contact Hyundai Canada, and never contacted me about this
problem. I also took it to one of the best painters in town and they told me
the same thing..........bad prep work. I'm out of luck on this one. So
I e-mailed the big kuhuna in Korea, and no word from them either. Customer
service is not their priority I guess. Well I won't be buying another one of
their cars ever again. There has been other issues with the car that never
got resolved by them either when it was still under warranty. I had to fix
it myself and out of my own pocket. Never, ever had this kind of problem
with domestics. I worked as a toy mechanic a few years back, better customer
relations, but their cars are over priced and are no better than domestics.
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:ca2c1$450f5b51$471fbb8f$17579@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_LHPg.39320$Ai5.982125@weber.videotron.net...
> > I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the
paint
> > is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk.
The
> > bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
> > inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and
> welded.
> > My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't
want
> a
> > brand new car been sanded and re-painted.
> >
> > Anybody experienced this?
> > What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
> >
>
> Why not? Getting it painted is every bit as good as the factory paint
job.
> I do agree that you should not be experiencing this problem on a new car,
> but things do happen.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Matt Whiting

Shaman wrote:
> I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
> is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
> bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
> inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and welded.
> My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want a
> brand new car been sanded and re-painted.
>
> Anybody experienced this?
> What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?

There is no choice if you want it fixed. This is very likely caused by
surface contamination that was cleaned off prior to painting. It has
prevented the paint from adhering properly. The only fix is to sand to
bare metal and repaint. Yes, I always hate to have the paint touched on
a new car also as it never looks quite the same.

Matt

Matt Whiting

Shaman wrote:
> I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
> is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
> bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
> inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and welded.
> My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want a
> brand new car been sanded and re-painted.
>
> Anybody experienced this?
> What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?

There is no choice if you want it fixed. This is very likely caused by
surface contamination that was cleaned off prior to painting. It has
prevented the paint from adhering properly. The only fix is to sand to
bare metal and repaint. Yes, I always hate to have the paint touched on
a new car also as it never looks quite the same.

Matt

Matt Whiting

Mike Marlow wrote:

> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_LHPg.39320$Ai5.982125@weber.videotron.net...
>
>>I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
>>is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
>>bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
>>inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and
>
> welded.
>
>>My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want
>
> a
>
>>brand new car been sanded and re-painted.
>>
>>Anybody experienced this?
>>What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
>>
>
>
> Why not? Getting it painted is every bit as good as the factory paint job.
> I do agree that you should not be experiencing this problem on a new car,
> but things do happen.

I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.

Matt

Matt Whiting

Mike Marlow wrote:

> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:_LHPg.39320$Ai5.982125@weber.videotron.net...
>
>>I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
>>is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
>>bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
>>inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and
>
> welded.
>
>>My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want
>
> a
>
>>brand new car been sanded and re-painted.
>>
>>Anybody experienced this?
>>What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?
>>
>
>
> Why not? Getting it painted is every bit as good as the factory paint job.
> I do agree that you should not be experiencing this problem on a new car,
> but things do happen.

I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.

Matt

Mike Marlow

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:%yPPg.1353$Db4.166764@news1.epix.net...

>
> I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
> that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
> good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
> has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
>

I've shot many gallons of paint Matt, today's paints do indeed match the
quality of the factory paint. Hell, almost anyone can shoot a paint that
will bubble off - that's a pretty good replication of the factory quality.
Seriously though - today's base and clear urethanes produce a paint job that
is every bit as good as what comes from the factory. Custom car shops
typically use the same paint systems as the shop down the road, unless they
are doing something unique like a restoration, and in the name of the
restoration they are using period paints.

Matching color is a matter of technique and product choice. There are
products out there by manufacturers which specialize in precise color
matches and they are very good matches. Nothing makes an absolutely perfect
match owing to variations in formulas (both at the factory and in the
aftermarket), and other factors, but the variations are quite minimal.
Blending takes care of this and results in a paint job that well matches the
factory paint.

Most of us know that the re-paint occured, and we "can see" it forever in
our minds. What we don't notice is that you can see variations in the
factory paint across the car. Those variations we accept because that's the
way the car came. The re-painted area bugs us simply because we know it's
there and we become convinced it's not the same as the rest of the car.

Then of course, there's bad paint jobs...

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:%yPPg.1353$Db4.166764@news1.epix.net...

>
> I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
> that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
> good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
> has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
>

I've shot many gallons of paint Matt, today's paints do indeed match the
quality of the factory paint. Hell, almost anyone can shoot a paint that
will bubble off - that's a pretty good replication of the factory quality.
Seriously though - today's base and clear urethanes produce a paint job that
is every bit as good as what comes from the factory. Custom car shops
typically use the same paint systems as the shop down the road, unless they
are doing something unique like a restoration, and in the name of the
restoration they are using period paints.

Matching color is a matter of technique and product choice. There are
products out there by manufacturers which specialize in precise color
matches and they are very good matches. Nothing makes an absolutely perfect
match owing to variations in formulas (both at the factory and in the
aftermarket), and other factors, but the variations are quite minimal.
Blending takes care of this and results in a paint job that well matches the
factory paint.

Most of us know that the re-paint occured, and we "can see" it forever in
our minds. What we don't notice is that you can see variations in the
factory paint across the car. Those variations we accept because that's the
way the car came. The re-painted area bugs us simply because we know it's
there and we become convinced it's not the same as the rest of the car.

Then of course, there's bad paint jobs...

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net