|
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few
gauss and pretty useless. Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet cap. even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is made of. aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic or reg is better. i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). my 2 cents. =) On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few
gauss and pretty useless. Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet cap. even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is made of. aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic or reg is better. i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). my 2 cents. =) On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few
gauss and pretty useless. Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet cap. even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is made of. aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic or reg is better. i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). my 2 cents. =) On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
I don't know if a magnet would hold metal particles against the flow of oil
within a filter, however I have had a couple of cars that had magnets fastened to the oil drain plug, which is an excellent way to see if your engine is making metal. "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few > gauss and pretty useless. > > Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new > rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed > have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. > > http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html > > However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, > because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of > hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and > force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and > high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few > micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet > cap. > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. > > A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the > electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a > electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved > would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other > fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh > alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. > > in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. > > your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt > become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is > made of. > > aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. > Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic > or reg is better. > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. > > you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the > bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to > change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). > > my 2 cents. =) > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > > > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
I don't know if a magnet would hold metal particles against the flow of oil
within a filter, however I have had a couple of cars that had magnets fastened to the oil drain plug, which is an excellent way to see if your engine is making metal. "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few > gauss and pretty useless. > > Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new > rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed > have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. > > http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html > > However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, > because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of > hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and > force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and > high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few > micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet > cap. > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. > > A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the > electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a > electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved > would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other > fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh > alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. > > in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. > > your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt > become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is > made of. > > aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. > Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic > or reg is better. > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. > > you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the > bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to > change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). > > my 2 cents. =) > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > > > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
I don't know if a magnet would hold metal particles against the flow of oil
within a filter, however I have had a couple of cars that had magnets fastened to the oil drain plug, which is an excellent way to see if your engine is making metal. "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few > gauss and pretty useless. > > Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new > rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed > have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. > > http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html > > However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, > because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of > hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and > force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and > high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few > micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet > cap. > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. > > A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the > electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a > electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved > would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other > fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh > alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. > > in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. > > your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt > become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is > made of. > > aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. > Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic > or reg is better. > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. > > you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the > bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to > change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). > > my 2 cents. =) > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > > > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
I don't know if a magnet would hold metal particles against the flow of oil
within a filter, however I have had a couple of cars that had magnets fastened to the oil drain plug, which is an excellent way to see if your engine is making metal. "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few > gauss and pretty useless. > > Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new > rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed > have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. > > http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html > > However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, > because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of > hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and > force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and > high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few > micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet > cap. > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. > > A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the > electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a > electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved > would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other > fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh > alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. > > in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. > > your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt > become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is > made of. > > aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. > Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic > or reg is better. > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. > > you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the > bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to > change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). > > my 2 cents. =) > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > > > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. Wrong. Try a magnetic drain plug. They *work*. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. Wrong. Try a magnetic drain plug. They *work*. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. Wrong. Try a magnetic drain plug. They *work*. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. Wrong. Try a magnetic drain plug. They *work*. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
Jin Lee wrote: > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. The $20 you spend to change the oil every 3K (especially in city driving) is VERY CHEAP insurance on your car. -- "We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter- day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinable urban guerilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability." -George H. W. Bush in his 1998 book "A World Transformed" "There should be limits to freedom."--George W. Bush "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation building."--George W. Bush, 10/11/2000 http://minime.de/bush/ http://www.911pi.com/ http://www.warprofiteers.com/ http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/ http://www.mindprod.com/bush911.html |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
Jin Lee wrote: > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. The $20 you spend to change the oil every 3K (especially in city driving) is VERY CHEAP insurance on your car. -- "We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter- day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinable urban guerilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability." -George H. W. Bush in his 1998 book "A World Transformed" "There should be limits to freedom."--George W. Bush "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation building."--George W. Bush, 10/11/2000 http://minime.de/bush/ http://www.911pi.com/ http://www.warprofiteers.com/ http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/ http://www.mindprod.com/bush911.html |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
Jin Lee wrote: > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. The $20 you spend to change the oil every 3K (especially in city driving) is VERY CHEAP insurance on your car. -- "We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter- day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinable urban guerilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability." -George H. W. Bush in his 1998 book "A World Transformed" "There should be limits to freedom."--George W. Bush "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation building."--George W. Bush, 10/11/2000 http://minime.de/bush/ http://www.911pi.com/ http://www.warprofiteers.com/ http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/ http://www.mindprod.com/bush911.html |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
Jin Lee wrote: > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. The $20 you spend to change the oil every 3K (especially in city driving) is VERY CHEAP insurance on your car. -- "We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter- day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinable urban guerilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability." -George H. W. Bush in his 1998 book "A World Transformed" "There should be limits to freedom."--George W. Bush "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation building."--George W. Bush, 10/11/2000 http://minime.de/bush/ http://www.911pi.com/ http://www.warprofiteers.com/ http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/ http://www.mindprod.com/bush911.html |
| All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:25 AM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands