Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
>
> here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
>
> You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
>
> =)

Oh.
So what was all that fine pastey material stuck to the magnet when I pulled
the plug?


> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> >
> > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
oil
> > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
sticking.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> >
> > They *work*.
> >
> >
> >

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine, all
eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed. In
any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in little
bits of metal.

"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
>
> here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
>
> You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
>
> =)
>
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> >
> > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
oil
> > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
sticking.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> >
> > They *work*.
> >
> >
> >

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine, all
eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed. In
any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in little
bits of metal.

"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
>
> here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
>
> You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
>
> =)
>
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> >
> > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
oil
> > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
sticking.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> >
> > They *work*.
> >
> >
> >

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine, all
eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed. In
any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in little
bits of metal.

"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
>
> here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
>
> You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
>
> =)
>
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> >
> > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
oil
> > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
sticking.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> >
> > They *work*.
> >
> >
> >

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine, all
eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed. In
any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in little
bits of metal.

"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
>
> here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
>
> You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
>
> =)
>
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> >
> > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
oil
> > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
sticking.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> >
> > They *work*.
> >
> >
> >

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?

I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
tolerances for small particulates flowing around. removing a small sample
of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
if you didnt use it at all.

There's no substitute for frequent oil changes.





On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
> through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine, all
> eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed. In
> any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in little
> bits of metal.
>
> "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> >
> > here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> > for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> > iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
> >
> > You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
> >
> > =)
> >
> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
> oil
> > > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
> sticking.
> > >
> > > Wrong.
> > >
> > > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> > >
> > > They *work*.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?

I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
tolerances for small particulates flowing around. removing a small sample
of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
if you didnt use it at all.

There's no substitute for frequent oil changes.





On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
> through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine, all
> eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed. In
> any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in little
> bits of metal.
>
> "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> >
> > here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> > for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> > iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
> >
> > You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
> >
> > =)
> >
> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
> oil
> > > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
> sticking.
> > >
> > > Wrong.
> > >
> > > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> > >
> > > They *work*.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?

I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
tolerances for small particulates flowing around. removing a small sample
of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
if you didnt use it at all.

There's no substitute for frequent oil changes.





On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
> through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine, all
> eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed. In
> any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in little
> bits of metal.
>
> "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> >
> > here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> > for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> > iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
> >
> > You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
> >
> > =)
> >
> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
> oil
> > > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
> sticking.
> > >
> > > Wrong.
> > >
> > > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> > >
> > > They *work*.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?

I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
tolerances for small particulates flowing around. removing a small sample
of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
if you didnt use it at all.

There's no substitute for frequent oil changes.





On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
> through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine, all
> eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed. In
> any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in little
> bits of metal.
>
> "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> >
> > here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> > for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> > iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
> >
> > You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
> >
> > =)
> >
> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your
> oil
> > > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the
> > > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
> sticking.
> > >
> > > Wrong.
> > >
> > > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> > >
> > > They *work*.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

Jin Lee wrote:

> i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
> really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?
>
> I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
> tolerances for small particulates flowing around. removing a small sample
> of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
> if you didnt use it at all.

It's not an either/or choice. The addition of the magnetic drain plug
certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't change your oil. FWIW, my old
Porsche 911 had a magnetic drain plug which was always gooey when I
changed the oil.

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

Jin Lee wrote:

> i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
> really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?
>
> I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
> tolerances for small particulates flowing around. removing a small sample
> of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
> if you didnt use it at all.

It's not an either/or choice. The addition of the magnetic drain plug
certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't change your oil. FWIW, my old
Porsche 911 had a magnetic drain plug which was always gooey when I
changed the oil.

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

Jin Lee wrote:

> i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
> really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?
>
> I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
> tolerances for small particulates flowing around. removing a small sample
> of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
> if you didnt use it at all.

It's not an either/or choice. The addition of the magnetic drain plug
certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't change your oil. FWIW, my old
Porsche 911 had a magnetic drain plug which was always gooey when I
changed the oil.

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

Jin Lee wrote:

> i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
> really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?
>
> I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
> tolerances for small particulates flowing around. removing a small sample
> of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
> if you didnt use it at all.

It's not an either/or choice. The addition of the magnetic drain plug
certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't change your oil. FWIW, my old
Porsche 911 had a magnetic drain plug which was always gooey when I
changed the oil.

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310271731180.16403@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
> really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?
>
> I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
> tolerances for small particulates flowing around.

You also think passing a flame over a magnet is some kind of science.

So who cares what you think...you don't believe they work, remember?


removing a small sample
> of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
> if you didnt use it at all.
>
> There's no substitute for frequent oil changes.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:
>
> > The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
> > through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine,
all
> > eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed.
In
> > any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in
little
> > bits of metal.
> >
> > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > >
> > > here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> > > for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> > > iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
> > >
> > > You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
> > >
> > > =)
> > >
> > > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > > > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of
your
> > oil
> > > > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when
the
> > > > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
> > sticking.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> > > >
> > > > They *work*.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
 

"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310271731180.16403@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> i don't mean to be a troll, but do you think that the magnetic drain plug
> really makes a significant difference in preventing engine wear?
>
> I think engine manufacturers design and build engines with certain
> tolerances for small particulates flowing around.

You also think passing a flame over a magnet is some kind of science.

So who cares what you think...you don't believe they work, remember?


removing a small sample
> of particles at the end of magnetic stick is think hardly any difference
> if you didnt use it at all.
>
> There's no substitute for frequent oil changes.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:
>
> > The race car I crew on had a valve spring break last year. Valve punched
> > through the piston, and metal very quickly through the engine,
all
> > eight pistons were scrap, some cylinder sleeves needed to be re-honed.
In
> > any case, upon removing the magnetic drain plug, it was covered in
little
> > bits of metal.
> >
> > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310260051290.22366@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > >
> > > here's an experiment for ya. Take a magnetic drain plug (or any magnet
> > > for that matter), heat it a bit under a flame, and try to pick up some
> > > iron shavings. Youll find out quickly it's very useless.
> > >
> > > You'll find out, you magnetic drain plug *doesn't work*.
> > >
> > > =)
> > >
> > > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message
> > > > news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu...
> > > > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of
your
> > oil
> > > > > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when
the
> > > > > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from
> > sticking.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Try a magnetic drain plug.
> > > >
> > > > They *work*.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >