Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On 2007-08-18 09:38:41 -0700, Grumpy AuContraire
<Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> said:
> Our family had Dobermans for years and they are easily bribed by food
> (as is just about any dawg). In fact, the last one (I swear) would
> point to the loot...

But most people don't know that, or won't take a chance.

I have a Boxer. He sounds real tough when someone knocks on the door,
and goes nuts when they ring the doorbell. But let someone in, and
it's, "Give me a biscuit, and I'll show you the safe."

That said, those who don't know him are very intimidated on the other
side of the door. Power perceived is power achieved.

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

witfal wrote:
> On 2007-08-18 09:38:41 -0700, Grumpy AuContraire
> <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> said:
>> Our family had Dobermans for years and they are easily bribed by food
>> (as is just about any dawg). In fact, the last one (I swear) would
>> point to the loot...
>
> But most people don't know that, or won't take a chance.
>
> I have a Boxer. He sounds real tough when someone knocks on the door,
> and goes nuts when they ring the doorbell. But let someone in, and
> it's, "Give me a biscuit, and I'll show you the safe."
>
> That said, those who don't know him are very intimidated on the other
> side of the door. Power perceived is power achieved.

Had it not been for my aversion to sticking ANYTHING on my Corvette, I
always kinda wanted that bumper sticker "The keys to my car are on the
front seat, next to my Rottweiler"

My Rotties always were partial to riding in the car. Last one I had
could get into the back seat of the LeBaron convertible without opening
the door or touching the side. One leap and he was there. Leave him
out in the parking lot sitting in it with the top down. He'd smile at
folks and they wouldn't come near or even park by my car.<g>

He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

witfal wrote:
> On 2007-08-18 09:38:41 -0700, Grumpy AuContraire
> <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> said:
>> Our family had Dobermans for years and they are easily bribed by food
>> (as is just about any dawg). In fact, the last one (I swear) would
>> point to the loot...
>
> But most people don't know that, or won't take a chance.
>
> I have a Boxer. He sounds real tough when someone knocks on the door,
> and goes nuts when they ring the doorbell. But let someone in, and
> it's, "Give me a biscuit, and I'll show you the safe."
>
> That said, those who don't know him are very intimidated on the other
> side of the door. Power perceived is power achieved.

Had it not been for my aversion to sticking ANYTHING on my Corvette, I
always kinda wanted that bumper sticker "The keys to my car are on the
front seat, next to my Rottweiler"

My Rotties always were partial to riding in the car. Last one I had
could get into the back seat of the LeBaron convertible without opening
the door or touching the side. One leap and he was there. Leave him
out in the parking lot sitting in it with the top down. He'd smile at
folks and they wouldn't come near or even park by my car.<g>

He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

witfal wrote:
> On 2007-08-18 09:38:41 -0700, Grumpy AuContraire
> <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> said:
>> Our family had Dobermans for years and they are easily bribed by food
>> (as is just about any dawg). In fact, the last one (I swear) would
>> point to the loot...
>
> But most people don't know that, or won't take a chance.
>
> I have a Boxer. He sounds real tough when someone knocks on the door,
> and goes nuts when they ring the doorbell. But let someone in, and
> it's, "Give me a biscuit, and I'll show you the safe."
>
> That said, those who don't know him are very intimidated on the other
> side of the door. Power perceived is power achieved.

Had it not been for my aversion to sticking ANYTHING on my Corvette, I
always kinda wanted that bumper sticker "The keys to my car are on the
front seat, next to my Rottweiler"

My Rotties always were partial to riding in the car. Last one I had
could get into the back seat of the LeBaron convertible without opening
the door or touching the side. One leap and he was there. Leave him
out in the parking lot sitting in it with the top down. He'd smile at
folks and they wouldn't come near or even park by my car.<g>

He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On 2007-08-18 13:23:48 -0700, Unquestionably Confused
<Puzzled2@ameritech.net> said:

> He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.

Or wants to.

We used to own three Mastiffs. The male topped 217 pounds.

They were as gentle as kittens, but were given a wide berth when we
walked them.

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On 2007-08-18 13:23:48 -0700, Unquestionably Confused
<Puzzled2@ameritech.net> said:

> He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.

Or wants to.

We used to own three Mastiffs. The male topped 217 pounds.

They were as gentle as kittens, but were given a wide berth when we
walked them.

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On 2007-08-18 13:23:48 -0700, Unquestionably Confused
<Puzzled2@ameritech.net> said:

> He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.

Or wants to.

We used to own three Mastiffs. The male topped 217 pounds.

They were as gentle as kittens, but were given a wide berth when we
walked them.

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

witfal <nospam@all4.me> wrote in news:fa7l73$f4s$1@news.albasani.net:

> On 2007-08-18 13:23:48 -0700, Unquestionably Confused
><Puzzled2@ameritech.net> said:
>
>> He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.
>
> Or wants to.
>
> We used to own three Mastiffs. The male topped 217 pounds.
>
> They were as gentle as kittens, but were given a wide berth when we
> walked them.
>
>

Many dogs were "gentle as kittens",up to the day they attacked small
children or adults and killed them. Even family members.
There's no telling what will set off a dog.
It could be a innocent movement,a smell you have on you,a noise you make.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

witfal <nospam@all4.me> wrote in news:fa7l73$f4s$1@news.albasani.net:

> On 2007-08-18 13:23:48 -0700, Unquestionably Confused
><Puzzled2@ameritech.net> said:
>
>> He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.
>
> Or wants to.
>
> We used to own three Mastiffs. The male topped 217 pounds.
>
> They were as gentle as kittens, but were given a wide berth when we
> walked them.
>
>

Many dogs were "gentle as kittens",up to the day they attacked small
children or adults and killed them. Even family members.
There's no telling what will set off a dog.
It could be a innocent movement,a smell you have on you,a noise you make.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

witfal <nospam@all4.me> wrote in news:fa7l73$f4s$1@news.albasani.net:

> On 2007-08-18 13:23:48 -0700, Unquestionably Confused
><Puzzled2@ameritech.net> said:
>
>> He was a lover, not a fighter, but at 110 lbs nobody knew for sure.
>
> Or wants to.
>
> We used to own three Mastiffs. The male topped 217 pounds.
>
> They were as gentle as kittens, but were given a wide berth when we
> walked them.
>
>

Many dogs were "gentle as kittens",up to the day they attacked small
children or adults and killed them. Even family members.
There's no telling what will set off a dog.
It could be a innocent movement,a smell you have on you,a noise you make.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:26:37 -0000
EdV <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Why not buy those battery operated blinking LEDs that pretend to be a
> viper on standby. Putting a switch under the fender may have some
> drawbacks during winter season. I am thinking you do not like those
> metal bars you put on the steering wheel and brake pedals.
>
>

Well, they're neat looking and all, but take all of about 30 seconds to
defeat.

If someone knows what they are doing, and really wants your car, they
will have it. It might make more sense to leave the doors unlocked and
the keys in the ignition. That way, the kids joyriding won't bust a
window and your steering column to go for a ride, and they might even
think enough of you to not torch the car when they are done...


--
Joe - Registered Linux User #449481

"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..."
- Danny, American History X

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:26:37 -0000
EdV <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Why not buy those battery operated blinking LEDs that pretend to be a
> viper on standby. Putting a switch under the fender may have some
> drawbacks during winter season. I am thinking you do not like those
> metal bars you put on the steering wheel and brake pedals.
>
>

Well, they're neat looking and all, but take all of about 30 seconds to
defeat.

If someone knows what they are doing, and really wants your car, they
will have it. It might make more sense to leave the doors unlocked and
the keys in the ignition. That way, the kids joyriding won't bust a
window and your steering column to go for a ride, and they might even
think enough of you to not torch the car when they are done...


--
Joe - Registered Linux User #449481

"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..."
- Danny, American History X

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:26:37 -0000
EdV <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Why not buy those battery operated blinking LEDs that pretend to be a
> viper on standby. Putting a switch under the fender may have some
> drawbacks during winter season. I am thinking you do not like those
> metal bars you put on the steering wheel and brake pedals.
>
>

Well, they're neat looking and all, but take all of about 30 seconds to
defeat.

If someone knows what they are doing, and really wants your car, they
will have it. It might make more sense to leave the doors unlocked and
the keys in the ignition. That way, the kids joyriding won't bust a
window and your steering column to go for a ride, and they might even
think enough of you to not torch the car when they are done...


--
Joe - Registered Linux User #449481

"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..."
- Danny, American History X

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On 18 Aug 2007 15:11:31 GMT
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> you need to immobilize the car so they can't drive it off;meaning a
> fuel cutoff or removal of a critical part like the ECU,and the alarm
> is just to tell you they have gotten INTO the car and may be removing
> your stereo,air bags,seats,or other parts. Then you need a GUN to
> safely 'detain' them until police arrive,which can be a long wait.In
> some states it's legal to shoot the thieves,especially if they move
> towards you.
>

If you do shoot them, though, make sure they are dead. The
investigation goes much quicker when there is only one side to the
story. And having a decent sized folding knife to put in their hands
once they are down couldn't hurt, either...

Even the new Hondas can be stolen, by a pro, without much problem. But
it does take a little longer now, and the kiddies can't do it...


--
Joe - Registered Linux User #449481

"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..."
- Danny, American History X

Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
 

On 18 Aug 2007 15:11:31 GMT
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> you need to immobilize the car so they can't drive it off;meaning a
> fuel cutoff or removal of a critical part like the ECU,and the alarm
> is just to tell you they have gotten INTO the car and may be removing
> your stereo,air bags,seats,or other parts. Then you need a GUN to
> safely 'detain' them until police arrive,which can be a long wait.In
> some states it's legal to shoot the thieves,especially if they move
> towards you.
>

If you do shoot them, though, make sure they are dead. The
investigation goes much quicker when there is only one side to the
story. And having a decent sized folding knife to put in their hands
once they are down couldn't hurt, either...

Even the new Hondas can be stolen, by a pro, without much problem. But
it does take a little longer now, and the kiddies can't do it...


--
Joe - Registered Linux User #449481

"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..."
- Danny, American History X