Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

His uninformed or misinformed cross posted opinion did not deserve a reply

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:31:05 -0600, CharlesTheCurmudgeon cast forth these
> pearls of wisdom...:
>
>> "Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:497c82b6$0$18023$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>
>>> <cake_and_eat_it_too@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:75a7131d-67d6-434a-b606-821a1ef155bf@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Those car makers have also engaged in planned obsolence of their
>>>> products - delivering cars that only get about 100,000 miles for their
>>>> life cycle as opposed to the 150,000 or so delivered by the foreign
>>>> automakers like Nissan, Toyota, and Honda.
>>>
>>> you are so full of it that it is coming out of your ears. i know of more
>>> american made vehicles with over 300,000 miles on them than i do of
>>> foreign made vehicles with 150,000 miles on them still driving on the
>>> roads.
>>>
>>
>> You are the one full of it. I know of far more Japanese cars with
>> 200,000
>> on them than I do American cars that crossed the 100,000 mile mark.
>>
>> Sir Charles the Curmudgeon
>
> It has already been proven that your powers of observation are lacking.
> Makes your point(s) meaningless. Perhaps you would consider dropping your
> tired rants and let the GM group get back to what it was before all this
> started, and let people enjoy the group without your "contributions".
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

Your uninformed or misinformed cross posted opinion does not deserve a reply

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:46:50 -0800 (PST), in2dadark cast forth these
> pearls
> of wisdom...:
>
>> On Jan 25, 11:31 am, "CharlesTheCurmudgeon"
>>>
>>> You are the one full of it. I know of far more Japanese cars with
>>> 200,000
>>> on them than I do American cars that crossed the 100,000 mile mark.
>>>
>>> Sir Charles the Curmudgeon
>>
>> Couldn't get any of my 'merican cars to last much past the last
>> payment (60 months) ...when I used to buy them on credit. I'm a
>> former automotive technician. I think I'd know how to get the most out
>> of a vehicle if there is a 'most' to get... My 01 camry has 150k and
>> unless someone runs into me, I don't see a day when I'll need another
>> vehicle. It may out last me...
>
> It seems obvious why you are a "former" automotive technician then. If
> you
> can't get any better life out of an American vehicle than that, it says a
> great deal about your automotive skills. Too bad. So many of us have had
> no problems getting 200,000 plus out of American vehicles.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

Your uninformed or misinformed cross posted opinion does not deserve a reply

"Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>i think it is time to put your tinfoil hat back on.
> "9DodgeFan" <Sepiaricus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3d99e960-151c-4cf2-9972-38fd86b1b174@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> Take a look at this: http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=71808
>
> And I know this is true because the guy's shop is in my hometown.
> Believe me, there have been all kinds of reports/interviews, etc.
> around here. Yet somehow it fails to make national news....
> And just think, 1 guy can do this in his own shop, yet the big
> automakers "can't" do this with their thousands of engineers and
> billions of dollars??? Hmmmmm........
>

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:

> "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:497c8423$0$5484$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...

> > When did Canada become a 3rd world country.
>
> Dunno, but America became a third world country on 20 January 2009.
>
Why?

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

For one we now will pay mothers to kill their babies in third world counties


"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
>
>> "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:497c8423$0$5484$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>
>> > When did Canada become a 3rd world country.
>>
>> Dunno, but America became a third world country on 20 January 2009.
>>
> Why?

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

In article <JJidnVQpdfeRgOPUnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:

> For one we now will pay mothers to kill their babies in third world counties

If only your mother had killed you when you were young.

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
>
>> "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:497c8423$0$5484$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>
>> > When did Canada become a 3rd world country.
>>
>> Dunno, but America became a third world country on 20 January 2009.
>>
> Why?

Agree or not, surely you know what happens 1/20 every four years.

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:44:46 -0500, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:

>> The American automakers have also been in collusion with the oil
>> companies by not having their products deliver higher miles per
>> gallon.
>
>Evidence, please.

Don't expect him to do your research for you, Mike.

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:33:14 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:

>
>"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:d8fc418e-a75c-4ac1-8b4a-c2f57eddb76c@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
>>
>>> "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:497c8423$0$5484$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>>
>>> > When did Canada become a 3rd world country.
>>>
>>> Dunno, but America became a third world country on 20 January 2009.
>>>
>> Why?
>
>Agree or not, surely you know what happens 1/20 every four years.
>
Perhaps it just became a "civilized" country??????

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:57:20 -0800 (PST), 9DodgeFan cast forth these pearls
of wisdom...:

> ...and in don't believe the first source:
> http://www.leftlanenews.com/400-hp-1...ema-debut.html
>
> Mr. Palmear's shop is on the south edge of Napoleon, OH; it's called
> "Horsepower Sales."

PT Barnum had an expression about stuff like this. Mr. Palmear, or anyone
else can claim all they want to claim. Until his claims are demonstrated,
it's all bull.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

<clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:33:14 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>>news:d8fc418e-a75c-4ac1-8b4a-c2f57eddb76c@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
>>>
>>>> "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:497c8423$0$5484$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>>>
>>>> > When did Canada become a 3rd world country.
>>>>
>>>> Dunno, but America became a third world country on 20 January 2009.
>>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>>Agree or not, surely you know what happens 1/20 every four years.
>>
> Perhaps it just became a "civilized" country??????

Other way round.

Sir Charles the Curmudgeon.

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

In article <ecges4vheszv.1i5khpip6sbi6$.dlg@40tude.net>,
Mike Marlow <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote:

> PT Barnum had an expression about stuff like this.

Did he have anything to say about how GM doesn't warrant its cars to the
actual owner?

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:44:46 -0500, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:
>
>>> The American automakers have also been in collusion with the oil
>>> companies by not having their products deliver higher miles per
>>> gallon.
>>
>>Evidence, please.
>
> Don't expect him to do your research for you, Mike.
>

It is a remarkable claim and should be supported by the person who makes the
claim. How would you propose to research the claim that Xenu is the alien
ruler of the Galactic Confederacy?

The claim of collusion doesn't make sense. Although American brands include
a number of choices that are far from fuel efficient, many models are as
fuel efficient as their overseas competitors. Given the potential costs to
the American auto brands if the public prefers more efficient models,
enormous amounts of money would have to change hands between the various oil
companies (they are all competitors in selling petro products, you know) and
the various car makers (ditto). Let's see it.

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

Mike (the other Mike)

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

QX wrote:
> My last three vehicles:
> 1984 Dodge Caravan LE traded at 214,000 miles
> 1997 Dodge Caravan ES traded at 135,000 miles
> 2008 Dodge Caravan SXT .

There was a repair place near me that specialized in Dodge Caravans &
Plymouth Voyagers. The Dan's (the owner) theory was that he needed to
specialize in vehicles that were exceptionally unreliable, that sold in
large volumes, and that owners kept for a long time. He had a great run
until around 2003 or so when everyone started buying the Honda Odyssey
and Toyota Sienna. Now he's moved to a smaller location, and he doesn't
limit his repairs to those two models as there just aren't enough of
them around anymore.

Re: Why does the auto industry turn out such crap??
 

In article <DfadnTNqjesRneLUnZ2dnUVZ_tXinZ2d@sedona.net>,
"Michael Pardee" <null@null.org> wrote:

> How would you propose to research the claim that Xenu is the alien
> ruler of the Galactic Confederacy?

Fool! Everyone knows he's merely the Foreign Minister. His bleatings
otherwise are merely attempts to raise his stature among the ignorant of
the third universe.