Supra90T

Let's see...street car tracks - VERY easy to squeel the tires
Wet roads, making a left turn without full visibility to the left onto Yonge Street...no traffic light I might add. Yea..again, very easy.

It has nothing to do with being an immature jerk on the streets - Apparently you simply don't understand this miracle called "traction".

birdie92k

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Couple of interesting posts in here. Here's a question- If they have massive campaigns against drunk driving along with heavy penalties and organizations such as MADD and have so far been unsuccessful at reducing drunk driving to a number that we can say is good in our personal opinion, what makes them think that they will make street racing disappear? They certainly aren't nipping it in the bud because street racing has been going on for a very long time and will continue to go on for years to come. It's human nature to be competitive at whatever we are doing. I'm sure people raced on bicycles before cars came about. I don't agree with the statement that everyone modifies their car to make it go faster than others. I prefer a car that can get up in speed but have incredible stability.

As for the cops - law enforcement continues to loose the respect of more than it gains because of more incidents of intimidation, racial profiling and abue of power coming to light. Another reason is like what judgez said, he calls to report drunk driving and offers to follow the car until the cops can catch up and they say no it's ok we'll look into it. Why would he call the next time? There is also an unproven but strong theory that many officers are drugged up while on the job (and not just cocaine, weed or heroin - morphine etc).

I agree that drunk driving campaigns are old so they have to move onto something new. Maybe they feel that they have reached a climax in the drunk driving campaign? That would be sad. Drunk driving takes away from the pleasure of driving or speeding . Is street racing more dangerous that drunk driving...that's a resounding no and the politicians and cops all know it but if the cop pulls over a drunk politician or hell two politicians racing their benzs do you really think he's gonna give the ticket????

As long as there are cars and roads, street racing and drunk driving will happen whether you like it or not.

gldwngr

Apparently you don't understand driving according to available traction.

And how do you SQUEAL tires on WET roads?

And making a left turn without full visibility? That sounds like driving at excessive speed for the area and conditions.

I'll be looking forward to the next round of seized car crushings. Maybe I'll see a Supra in the pile, assuming it doesn't get crushed by collision beforehand.

birdie92k

iTrader: (1)

Squealing your tires ain't illegal but I can see your point in that it grabs attention - that's the point of doing it and even older guys in beamers do it. And again human nature is to take risks so saying you'll have to face repercussions generally means put it in the back of your head and have an excuse to go with it.

Supra90T

Sorry, I should say...first time was squealing
Second time was actually spinning
Both are audible...But you'd know that if you had a car that had enough power to lose traction in the first place. Oh and yes, you can squeal on wet roads too by the way...

Excessive speed? Oh yea..That whole 15kmph I did was MINDBOGGLING I tell you! You're not better than half of those scumbag corrupt cops out there.

PS wasn't with the supra. But nice try.

Notice where I specifically stated it was accidental. If I wanted to get attention, I'd find much better ways and better locations to do it.

birdie92k

iTrader: (1)

Yeh wasn't knocking you there man. Most people do it to grab attention. Other situations do call some for peeling out though so I don't know what kinda smack gldwngr is talking about.

gldwngr

Campaigns against drunk driving have been very effective, and deaths due to impaired driving are down to well under half of what they were 20 years ago.

Deaths due to street racing have been on a steady rise in the last few years, and it's more than appropriate to use increased awareness and enforcement campaigns to stem the rising tide of casualties now before they get any higher.

Arguing that people have always street-raced is stupid. People have always driven drunk, but we no longer tolerate that. People used to beat their wives as a matter of habit too - shall we disregard that too because it's been going on for a very long time?

If you want to be competitive, there are tracks available for you to be as competitive as you want, and without risking any non-competitor in the process. If you decide to play your games out on the public streets, then you become just as reprehensible as those impaired drivers whose irresponsible and self-centered stupidity also risks the well-being of other innocents out on the roads.

Squealing tires is illegal. It's an unnecessary noise ticket under the HTA that you can get for peeling out or for going around a croner too quickly, and it is also ticketable under city bylaws. If you do it to extremes, you can also be hit with careless driving.

ivperformance

gldwngr, you still need to address the fact that you guys discourage people from visiting the track by giving tickets to people who are coming there.

You cant prohibit something without giving people a more appropriate alternative.

StealthZ

actually i didnt make it that color. it was changed to pink by whoever the leg humping mod that follows me around this forum and always bans me is. personally i could care less and whoever changed it again could leave it pink for all i care.

judgez24

im about to leave for work so i wont get through this thread until i get home but i should have worded what i said a litte differently. you go to the track cops see how fast your car is, they remember you and your car, plate numbers etc, now you get stopped on the street and they jknow you have a modded car and guess what, modded cars get tickets.

also my car is always in street legasl trim but they find things to harrass me for. ive gotten free roadside safety inspections as they call them, they take up alot of time and are a pita.

also for harrasment, you should have been at the track the one ntie the cops were stopping everyone at the exit, checking everyones cars, checking cars that were tied down to trailors to make sure there were enough straps holding the cars down etc etc. just a cash grab man and a way to turn people off from going to the track. unless of course the town the track is in doesnt want the track to exiast anyone in which case theyre going in the right direction, lol

Z-Tuned

Yeah but there were advantages to society when that happened. Chicks didn't get out of line, there was a boss and an employee dynamic and more was accomplishyed. Now its just all arguing and disagreements on how to oversee the house and kids and as a result ppl are in crazy debt, houses look like and their kids are undisciplined retards.

Now that the feminazis have all the power they don't know what to do with it and are dropping their corporate jobs to go back home and slob around but not get anything done.

Kidding of course

Gldwger is a cop?...cool!

gldwngr

If a car has illegal or unsafe mods, it should not be on the road at all, not even to go to the track. That car belongs on a trailer.

And you can certainly prohibit things against the public interest. I like to fly - that doesn't mean that I can demand that they build an airport right near my home, or threaten to start landings and takeoffs off public roads otherwise. It's up to me to find an appropriate and legal place from which to do my flying, or find another hobby, simple as that.

It's not a cash grab to ensure that people are properly securing their loads, in this case, cars to trailers. It's a pure safety issue.

In that sense, the cops and the MTO treat you no different than they treat the weekend cottage rush on long weekends, where they also do inspection sweeps on camping, boat, and utility trailers headed off to the cottage with all the usual cottage-bound cargoes. And noth at Cayuga and on the 400, they find almost as many people out of compliance as in compliance. That alone gives ample reason to keep conducting the inspection sweeps until people start to get the message.

drifter420

It all comes down to politics no matter how you dice it and I see both point of view. ( Including gldwngrs )

The government could easily rectify the issue.
Street racing? Mandate all cars to only 100Km/h. How hard is it to see a car going faster then that on the highway?? ( for those folks that has modified it otherwise ) voila instant ticket. But the economic impact of that would be catasrophic. Aftermarket shops close down.. people get laid off and no work, thus no longer payin taxes; Have no money to spend to keep the economics flowing, and put more strain on Government programs ( welfare/ EI ). The manufacturers no longer has demands for manufacturing the products and thus have lay offs or shut downs. People now horde their money instead of keepin the economic flow, so it becomes a chain reaction. The folks thats part of ERASE will have to do other things. ( Just look at why GM has been bailed out by the government so many times and same with Air Canada )

Drunk driving?? Mandate all vehicles with breathalyzer. Sure there's work around for them, but it would certainly put a damper on it.. and people would spend less money at the clubs/bar ( again economic impact ) and LCBO cause of it. Cops would again have to be redirected to do something else.

Road safety.. frigg.. put all cars with big rubber cushions like bumper cars, put them all on tracks, and speed govened.. voila.. done.. but again.. it will impact cash flow/economics.

So the ultimate culprit to all these are the politicians and the people with too much spare time to complain about everyones problem but there own. I feel bad for cops cause its one of those damm if they do and damm if they don't ( nobody is glad to get a ticket no matter the reason ). Much like anything else, as long as there's human doing the job, there will always be corruption and injustice.

I still think there's bigger things to fry then street racing (I do want to keep the lil G2 slow and curious wannabes off the road pretendin they're racing though ). What ever happened to the big hype bout gun control when we had all these gun related murders a few years back? Why have I not heard anything bout it since? ( that incidently also kills more in one year then Street racing has since they've been loggin it )

Oh yeah... cause it comes to politics and they believe all voters have A.D.D. ( and sometimes I think we do )

K... now I"m goin to get off my soap box and get to work street racing while drunk waving my double over

P.S. To Toot-Tone and the moderating/Admin team.

I want a new decal that says
GTcars.Ca
As seen on Shitty TV ( City TV )

LOL

StealthZ

that wasnt funny..........

Z-Tuned

Sorry to break it to you, all non-OEM equipment is deemed illegal and unsafe according to the HTA combined with officers discretion. Ride height, exhaust, colored lights & HIDs...they can issue a ticket for anything.

So if I get a ticket for an improper exhaust (although its dB legal), according to them thats illegal and according to you its should not be on the road? LOLz