New engine option ?
 

I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended resolution.
I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.

Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?

Chuck

New engine option ?
 

I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended resolution.
I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.

Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?

Chuck

New engine option ?
 

I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended resolution.
I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.

Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?

Chuck

New engine option ?
 

I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended resolution.
I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.

Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?

Chuck

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
> I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended
resolution.
> I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
> to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
> pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
> interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck
>
Go after a new car; right now your Dealer should be your advocate since any
major decision will come from Honda (since it was their new car that
experienced a mechanical failure). The Dealer will get paid to do whatever
Honda recommends so I don't think that he would be worried about his costs .
If Honda will not replace the car ( fall over in surprise if they do) then
I think that you will be doing well if you're offered a new engine. That
should be the minimum offer, I just wouldn't want the one that's in there
now. Inspection and replacement of some components may not get all the
potential areas of trouble. I'd be concerned too about all the teardown and
reassembly involved in a replacement but it's doable and much of the same
teardown occurs if they were just inspecting/replacing the innards of the
engine. Keep us updated as this is will be a good insight as to how that
Dealer and Honda will respond.
MLD

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
> I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended
resolution.
> I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
> to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
> pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
> interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck
>
Go after a new car; right now your Dealer should be your advocate since any
major decision will come from Honda (since it was their new car that
experienced a mechanical failure). The Dealer will get paid to do whatever
Honda recommends so I don't think that he would be worried about his costs .
If Honda will not replace the car ( fall over in surprise if they do) then
I think that you will be doing well if you're offered a new engine. That
should be the minimum offer, I just wouldn't want the one that's in there
now. Inspection and replacement of some components may not get all the
potential areas of trouble. I'd be concerned too about all the teardown and
reassembly involved in a replacement but it's doable and much of the same
teardown occurs if they were just inspecting/replacing the innards of the
engine. Keep us updated as this is will be a good insight as to how that
Dealer and Honda will respond.
MLD

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
> I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended
resolution.
> I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
> to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
> pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
> interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck
>
Go after a new car; right now your Dealer should be your advocate since any
major decision will come from Honda (since it was their new car that
experienced a mechanical failure). The Dealer will get paid to do whatever
Honda recommends so I don't think that he would be worried about his costs .
If Honda will not replace the car ( fall over in surprise if they do) then
I think that you will be doing well if you're offered a new engine. That
should be the minimum offer, I just wouldn't want the one that's in there
now. Inspection and replacement of some components may not get all the
potential areas of trouble. I'd be concerned too about all the teardown and
reassembly involved in a replacement but it's doable and much of the same
teardown occurs if they were just inspecting/replacing the innards of the
engine. Keep us updated as this is will be a good insight as to how that
Dealer and Honda will respond.
MLD

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
> I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended
resolution.
> I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
> to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
> pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
> interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck
>
Go after a new car; right now your Dealer should be your advocate since any
major decision will come from Honda (since it was their new car that
experienced a mechanical failure). The Dealer will get paid to do whatever
Honda recommends so I don't think that he would be worried about his costs .
If Honda will not replace the car ( fall over in surprise if they do) then
I think that you will be doing well if you're offered a new engine. That
should be the minimum offer, I just wouldn't want the one that's in there
now. Inspection and replacement of some components may not get all the
potential areas of trouble. I'd be concerned too about all the teardown and
reassembly involved in a replacement but it's doable and much of the same
teardown occurs if they were just inspecting/replacing the innards of the
engine. Keep us updated as this is will be a good insight as to how that
Dealer and Honda will respond.
MLD

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
>I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended resolution.
>I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
>to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
>pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
>interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck

Chuck,
I wonder why you think you are entitled to a new engine let alone a new car?
I believe that you should make your decision based on what the dealer finds
with your present car. If it was a manufacturing defect or a construction
mistake, then I would agree that you should be entitled to a new engine. If
it turns out that your problem resulted from damage caused by a road hazard,
such as a hole in the oil pan or something striking the filter and
dislodging it then the situation is completely different. To illustrate; if
you bought a new battery for your car, and during installation you dropped
the battery and knocked a hole in it, would you expect a replacement under
warranty? I don't think so. Furthermore, you exacerbated the situation by
continuing to drive the vehicle after the idiot light illuminated. If they
really wish to do so, Honda can argue that you are responsible, at least in
part, for damage to the engine. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that I
agree with that position, rather I am simply pointing out to you what may
come down the pike. I would prepare myself for all contingencies and have
arguments to counter them. As far as accepting a new engine, definitely! A
new engine, installed by the dealership, should carry the same warranty as
the original engine. In any case, good luck and I hope this all works out
for the best for you.

DaveD
>
>

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
>I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended resolution.
>I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
>to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
>pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
>interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck

Chuck,
I wonder why you think you are entitled to a new engine let alone a new car?
I believe that you should make your decision based on what the dealer finds
with your present car. If it was a manufacturing defect or a construction
mistake, then I would agree that you should be entitled to a new engine. If
it turns out that your problem resulted from damage caused by a road hazard,
such as a hole in the oil pan or something striking the filter and
dislodging it then the situation is completely different. To illustrate; if
you bought a new battery for your car, and during installation you dropped
the battery and knocked a hole in it, would you expect a replacement under
warranty? I don't think so. Furthermore, you exacerbated the situation by
continuing to drive the vehicle after the idiot light illuminated. If they
really wish to do so, Honda can argue that you are responsible, at least in
part, for damage to the engine. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that I
agree with that position, rather I am simply pointing out to you what may
come down the pike. I would prepare myself for all contingencies and have
arguments to counter them. As far as accepting a new engine, definitely! A
new engine, installed by the dealership, should carry the same warranty as
the original engine. In any case, good luck and I hope this all works out
for the best for you.

DaveD
>
>

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
>I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended resolution.
>I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
>to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
>pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
>interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck

Chuck,
I wonder why you think you are entitled to a new engine let alone a new car?
I believe that you should make your decision based on what the dealer finds
with your present car. If it was a manufacturing defect or a construction
mistake, then I would agree that you should be entitled to a new engine. If
it turns out that your problem resulted from damage caused by a road hazard,
such as a hole in the oil pan or something striking the filter and
dislodging it then the situation is completely different. To illustrate; if
you bought a new battery for your car, and during installation you dropped
the battery and knocked a hole in it, would you expect a replacement under
warranty? I don't think so. Furthermore, you exacerbated the situation by
continuing to drive the vehicle after the idiot light illuminated. If they
really wish to do so, Honda can argue that you are responsible, at least in
part, for damage to the engine. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that I
agree with that position, rather I am simply pointing out to you what may
come down the pike. I would prepare myself for all contingencies and have
arguments to counter them. As far as accepting a new engine, definitely! A
new engine, installed by the dealership, should carry the same warranty as
the original engine. In any case, good luck and I hope this all works out
for the best for you.

DaveD
>
>

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
>I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended resolution.
>I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
>to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
>pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
>interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck

Chuck,
I wonder why you think you are entitled to a new engine let alone a new car?
I believe that you should make your decision based on what the dealer finds
with your present car. If it was a manufacturing defect or a construction
mistake, then I would agree that you should be entitled to a new engine. If
it turns out that your problem resulted from damage caused by a road hazard,
such as a hole in the oil pan or something striking the filter and
dislodging it then the situation is completely different. To illustrate; if
you bought a new battery for your car, and during installation you dropped
the battery and knocked a hole in it, would you expect a replacement under
warranty? I don't think so. Furthermore, you exacerbated the situation by
continuing to drive the vehicle after the idiot light illuminated. If they
really wish to do so, Honda can argue that you are responsible, at least in
part, for damage to the engine. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that I
agree with that position, rather I am simply pointing out to you what may
come down the pike. I would prepare myself for all contingencies and have
arguments to counter them. As far as accepting a new engine, definitely! A
new engine, installed by the dealership, should carry the same warranty as
the original engine. In any case, good luck and I hope this all works out
for the best for you.

DaveD
>
>

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
> I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended
resolution.
> I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
> to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
> pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
> interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck
>
>
I think they will repair it. My experience with a 99 Accord 5 spd with
problem with 5th grinding on a shift at 600 miles was that Honda would not
replace the transmission -- in fact stalled me for well over 6 weeks until I
just gave up and had the dealer fix the transmission. They found it had
been incorrectly assembled at factory. A lot depends on your State laws --
and your willingness to hire legal assistance.

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
> I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended
resolution.
> I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
> to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
> pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
> interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck
>
>
I think they will repair it. My experience with a 99 Accord 5 spd with
problem with 5th grinding on a shift at 600 miles was that Honda would not
replace the transmission -- in fact stalled me for well over 6 weeks until I
just gave up and had the dealer fix the transmission. They found it had
been incorrectly assembled at factory. A lot depends on your State laws --
and your willingness to hire legal assistance.

Re: New engine option ?
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:Q92dnVpBprf9Y-LYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@conversent.net...
> I have not yet heard back from the dealer, about their intended
resolution.
> I am now driving a rental, which they are paying for. If the dealer offers
> to install a new engine, I am wondering if I should accept it... It seems
> pretty complicated to me to replace the whole engine, with all of its many
> interconnections, and do it as well as the engine in a new car.
>
> Thoughts on whether I could trust a dealer to do this right?
>
> Chuck
>
>
I think they will repair it. My experience with a 99 Accord 5 spd with
problem with 5th grinding on a shift at 600 miles was that Honda would not
replace the transmission -- in fact stalled me for well over 6 weeks until I
just gave up and had the dealer fix the transmission. They found it had
been incorrectly assembled at factory. A lot depends on your State laws --
and your willingness to hire legal assistance.