Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:J9GdnZSV_Z6IKxzYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@conversent.n et...
> The dealer (and Honda corporate) has come back with their latest offer...
> No new car, no new engine, but a 7 year / 100K warranty. I am thinking
> about it.... Comments?
>
> Chuck
>
If there was damage from running dry, it should be apparent in the next
month (the voice of sad experience!) I undertightened an oil filter when I
was a kid and by the time the oil light came on - I was on the freeway - the
damage was done. It was audible as a soft snare drum sound right away and
progressed to a clear rod knock within a week or two. It seems the indium
coating on the crank bearings is intolerant of being run dry :-(

The warranty sounds like a really good deal. If they replace the engine (or
the car) and the tranny goes out at 70K miles without an extended warranty
you are on your own. With the warranty, you are covered for engine damage
and more. It's also a good deal for Honda, since it's "soft" money. Heck, at
work we accepted 2 years of free tech support for a piece of equipment the
mfr's contractor botched an upgrade on. A pretty good deal, since the
support was worth $7500 per year! And it didn't cost the mfr any hard money.
Life is good....

Mike

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...

- The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from home,
repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that does
not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
sending me the full contract.)

- The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.

- I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.

- I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again. If
the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.

On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were very
responsive.

Thanks to this list for all the input.

Chuck Connell
http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page


"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
>I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
>the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
>home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
>another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
>I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
>the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
>level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to the
>dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
>
> I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more. There
> are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
>
> Some questions...
>
> - Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
>
> - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
>
> - Any other thoughts/insights?
>
> TIA,
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
>

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...

- The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from home,
repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that does
not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
sending me the full contract.)

- The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.

- I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.

- I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again. If
the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.

On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were very
responsive.

Thanks to this list for all the input.

Chuck Connell
http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page


"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
>I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
>the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
>home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
>another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
>I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
>the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
>level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to the
>dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
>
> I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more. There
> are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
>
> Some questions...
>
> - Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
>
> - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
>
> - Any other thoughts/insights?
>
> TIA,
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
>

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...

- The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from home,
repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that does
not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
sending me the full contract.)

- The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.

- I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.

- I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again. If
the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.

On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were very
responsive.

Thanks to this list for all the input.

Chuck Connell
http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page


"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
>I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
>the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
>home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
>another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
>I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
>the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
>level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to the
>dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
>
> I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more. There
> are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
>
> Some questions...
>
> - Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
>
> - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
>
> - Any other thoughts/insights?
>
> TIA,
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
>

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...

- The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from home,
repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that does
not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
sending me the full contract.)

- The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.

- I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.

- I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again. If
the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.

On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were very
responsive.

Thanks to this list for all the input.

Chuck Connell
http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page


"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
>I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
>the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
>home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
>another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
>I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
>the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
>level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to the
>dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
>
> I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more. There
> are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
>
> Some questions...
>
> - Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
>
> - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
>
> - Any other thoughts/insights?
>
> TIA,
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
>

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

I think that you made out as well as can be expected. Any significant
damage should be apparent well within the time and mileage. Plus you got a
lot more perks with the extra coverage.
MLD
"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:d6SdnbPos_OeAh_YnZ2dnUVZ_uiknZ2d@conversent.n et...
> I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...
>
> - The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
> Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from
home,
> repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that
does
> not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
> sending me the full contract.)
>
> - The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
> worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.
>
> - I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
> assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
> pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.
>
> - I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again.
If
> the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.
>
> On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
> Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
> once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
> phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
> problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
> substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were
very
> responsive.
>
> Thanks to this list for all the input.
>
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
>
> "Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
> news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
> >I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
> >the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
> >home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
> >another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
> >I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
> >the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
> >level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to
the
> >dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
> >
> > I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more.
There
> > are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> > driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
> >
> > Some questions...
> >
> > - Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> > over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
> >
> > - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> > days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
> >
> > - Any other thoughts/insights?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chuck Connell
> > http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
> >
> >
>
>

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

I think that you made out as well as can be expected. Any significant
damage should be apparent well within the time and mileage. Plus you got a
lot more perks with the extra coverage.
MLD
"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:d6SdnbPos_OeAh_YnZ2dnUVZ_uiknZ2d@conversent.n et...
> I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...
>
> - The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
> Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from
home,
> repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that
does
> not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
> sending me the full contract.)
>
> - The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
> worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.
>
> - I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
> assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
> pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.
>
> - I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again.
If
> the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.
>
> On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
> Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
> once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
> phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
> problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
> substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were
very
> responsive.
>
> Thanks to this list for all the input.
>
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
>
> "Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
> news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
> >I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
> >the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
> >home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
> >another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
> >I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
> >the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
> >level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to
the
> >dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
> >
> > I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more.
There
> > are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> > driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
> >
> > Some questions...
> >
> > - Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> > over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
> >
> > - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> > days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
> >
> > - Any other thoughts/insights?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chuck Connell
> > http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
> >
> >
>
>

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

I think that you made out as well as can be expected. Any significant
damage should be apparent well within the time and mileage. Plus you got a
lot more perks with the extra coverage.
MLD
"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:d6SdnbPos_OeAh_YnZ2dnUVZ_uiknZ2d@conversent.n et...
> I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...
>
> - The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
> Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from
home,
> repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that
does
> not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
> sending me the full contract.)
>
> - The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
> worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.
>
> - I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
> assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
> pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.
>
> - I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again.
If
> the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.
>
> On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
> Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
> once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
> phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
> problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
> substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were
very
> responsive.
>
> Thanks to this list for all the input.
>
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
>
> "Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
> news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
> >I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
> >the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
> >home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
> >another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
> >I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
> >the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
> >level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to
the
> >dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
> >
> > I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more.
There
> > are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> > driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
> >
> > Some questions...
> >
> > - Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> > over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
> >
> > - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> > days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
> >
> > - Any other thoughts/insights?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chuck Connell
> > http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
> >
> >
>
>

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

I think that you made out as well as can be expected. Any significant
damage should be apparent well within the time and mileage. Plus you got a
lot more perks with the extra coverage.
MLD
"Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
news:d6SdnbPos_OeAh_YnZ2dnUVZ_uiknZ2d@conversent.n et...
> I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...
>
> - The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
> Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from
home,
> repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that
does
> not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
> sending me the full contract.)
>
> - The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
> worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.
>
> - I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
> assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
> pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.
>
> - I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again.
If
> the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.
>
> On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
> Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
> once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
> phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
> problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
> substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were
very
> responsive.
>
> Thanks to this list for all the input.
>
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
>
> "Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
> news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
> >I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
> >the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
> >home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
> >another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
> >I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
> >the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
> >level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to
the
> >dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
> >
> > I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more.
There
> > are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> > driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
> >
> > Some questions...
> >
> > - Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> > over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
> >
> > - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> > days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
> >
> > - Any other thoughts/insights?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chuck Connell
> > http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
> >
> >
>
>

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

Chuck Connell wrote:
> The dealer (and Honda corporate) has come back with their latest offer...
> No new car, no new engine, but a 7 year / 100K warranty. I am thinking
> about it.... Comments?
>

Do you/did you plan to keep the car that long? I would maybe ask for 2
additional items - unlimited use of a comparable loaner car*, should
the engine have a problem down the road when you are away from home or
on a trip, and make the warranty transferrable to a future owner.
Whatever you do, make dsure it is documented and you may want to have a
lawyer look it over for you.

*By this I mean, another CRV or something larger, versus them giving
you a clapped-out
'93 Civic.

Dan D
'07 Odyssey Slate Green
Central NJ USA

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

Chuck Connell wrote:
> The dealer (and Honda corporate) has come back with their latest offer...
> No new car, no new engine, but a 7 year / 100K warranty. I am thinking
> about it.... Comments?
>

Do you/did you plan to keep the car that long? I would maybe ask for 2
additional items - unlimited use of a comparable loaner car*, should
the engine have a problem down the road when you are away from home or
on a trip, and make the warranty transferrable to a future owner.
Whatever you do, make dsure it is documented and you may want to have a
lawyer look it over for you.

*By this I mean, another CRV or something larger, versus them giving
you a clapped-out
'93 Civic.

Dan D
'07 Odyssey Slate Green
Central NJ USA

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

Chuck Connell wrote:
> The dealer (and Honda corporate) has come back with their latest offer...
> No new car, no new engine, but a 7 year / 100K warranty. I am thinking
> about it.... Comments?
>

Do you/did you plan to keep the car that long? I would maybe ask for 2
additional items - unlimited use of a comparable loaner car*, should
the engine have a problem down the road when you are away from home or
on a trip, and make the warranty transferrable to a future owner.
Whatever you do, make dsure it is documented and you may want to have a
lawyer look it over for you.

*By this I mean, another CRV or something larger, versus them giving
you a clapped-out
'93 Civic.

Dan D
'07 Odyssey Slate Green
Central NJ USA

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

Chuck Connell wrote:
> The dealer (and Honda corporate) has come back with their latest offer...
> No new car, no new engine, but a 7 year / 100K warranty. I am thinking
> about it.... Comments?
>

Do you/did you plan to keep the car that long? I would maybe ask for 2
additional items - unlimited use of a comparable loaner car*, should
the engine have a problem down the road when you are away from home or
on a trip, and make the warranty transferrable to a future owner.
Whatever you do, make dsure it is documented and you may want to have a
lawyer look it over for you.

*By this I mean, another CRV or something larger, versus them giving
you a clapped-out
'93 Civic.

Dan D
'07 Odyssey Slate Green
Central NJ USA

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

You're getting the best of both worlds and is exactly the best decision
that you could have made.

I would monitor consumption closely for the next few months.
Traditionally, Honda engines consume virtually no oil between changes.
There is a caveat here in that Honda considers consumption of up to a
quart every thousand miles "acceptable" but this same consumption rate
is very high in comparison to the normal Honda engine.

JT




Chuck Connell wrote:
>
> I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...
>
> - The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
> Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from home,
> repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that does
> not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
> sending me the full contract.)
>
> - The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
> worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.
>
> - I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
> assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
> pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.
>
> - I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again. If
> the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.
>
> On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
> Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
> once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
> phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
> problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
> substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were very
> responsive.
>
> Thanks to this list for all the input.
>
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
> "Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
> news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
> >I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
> >the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
> >home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
> >another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
> >I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
> >the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
> >level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to the
> >dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
> >
> > I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more. There
> > are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> > driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
> >
> > Some questions...
> >
> > - Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> > over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
> >
> > - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> > days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
> >
> > - Any other thoughts/insights?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chuck Connell
> > http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
> >
> >

Re: All the oil ran out of my new 2007 CR-V !!
 

You're getting the best of both worlds and is exactly the best decision
that you could have made.

I would monitor consumption closely for the next few months.
Traditionally, Honda engines consume virtually no oil between changes.
There is a caveat here in that Honda considers consumption of up to a
quart every thousand miles "acceptable" but this same consumption rate
is very high in comparison to the normal Honda engine.

JT




Chuck Connell wrote:
>
> I have decided to accept the engine repair and the warranty. Here's why...
>
> - The warranty is a full 7y/100k, not just on the engine. It is the Honda
> Care plan and includes roadside assistance, lodging if I am away from home,
> repair at any US dealership. It is bumper to bumper, but I assume that does
> not include standard wear items, like tires and brake shoes. (They are
> sending me the full contract.)
>
> - The crankcase capacity is actually 5.3q. I thought it was 4.3. So at its
> worst moment, my engine had 1.3q left in it.
>
> - I added oil quickly (2 miles, low speed) after the light blinked on. So
> assuming the light is working properly, and warns of low oil pressure, the
> pressure was not low for very long. The light never came on steady.
>
> - I work near the dealer, so it is easy for me to take the car in again. If
> the car really runs fine for 7 years, I guess it was OK.
>
> On the other hand... I am disappointed in how the dealer (Herb Chambers,
> Burlington MA) responded to this. The General Manager tried to call me
> once, and left a message. But he never called back again, despite my 3-4
> phone messages to him plus a fax. The dealer should have jumped on this
> problem and done anything reasonable to satisfy the customer. All my
> substantial conversations were with American Honda Corp, and they were very
> responsive.
>
> Thanks to this list for all the input.
>
> Chuck Connell
> http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
>
> "Chuck Connell" <connell@chc-3.com> wrote in message
> news:nqSdnZV3zoPqIOPYnZ2dnUVZ_oannZ2d@conversent.n et...
> >I have a one-month old 07 CRV with about 900 miles. Last night I noticed
> >the oil light blinking randomly. I checked the oil level as soon as I got
> >home, just a couple miles later. It was down, so I added a quart. I did
> >another short errand (5 miles), then checked the oil again. Still low, so
> >I added another quart and parked it for the night. This morning I checked
> >the stick and it showed nothing. So I added two more quarts, bringing the
> >level up to full (2nd hole in the stick). I drove the car directly to the
> >dealer this morning (about 5 miles) with no oil light coming on.
> >
> > I now realize that the oil has been running out for a week or more. There
> > are oil spots where I park my car at work, and two large spots in my
> > driveway. The oil level was down 4 quarts!
> >
> > Some questions...
> >
> > - Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > - What is the total oil capacity of this vehicle? I suspect it is just
> > over 4q, so my oil was VERY low.
> >
> > - Should I demand a new car from the dealer, since I drove it for some
> > days this way? (Probably about 20-30 miles per day.)
> >
> > - Any other thoughts/insights?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Chuck Connell
> > http://www.chc-3.com -- My home page
> >
> >