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Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:
>Ford >Escort Horse Hockey! I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000. New alternator 4 times. Air conditioning work EVERY year. It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in time. Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles.... -- Scott in Florida |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:
>Ford >Escort Horse Hockey! I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000. New alternator 4 times. Air conditioning work EVERY year. It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in time. Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles.... -- Scott in Florida |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message news:k18cb3ptq6sajjsm6idqgiaek5gm6kgi4s@4ax.com... > On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>Ford >>Escort > > Horse Hockey! > > I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000. > > New alternator 4 times. > > Air conditioning work EVERY year. > > It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in > time. You should have just pulled it out of the garage and let it burn. > Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles.... Not every Escort was great, just like not every Camry is great. But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. Jeff > Scott in Florida > > |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message news:k18cb3ptq6sajjsm6idqgiaek5gm6kgi4s@4ax.com... > On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>Ford >>Escort > > Horse Hockey! > > I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000. > > New alternator 4 times. > > Air conditioning work EVERY year. > > It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in > time. You should have just pulled it out of the garage and let it burn. > Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles.... Not every Escort was great, just like not every Camry is great. But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. Jeff > Scott in Florida > > |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:17:30 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message >news:k18cb3ptq6sajjsm6idqgiaek5gm6kgi4s@4ax.com.. . >> On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>>Ford >>>Escort >> >> Horse Hockey! >> >> I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000. >> >> New alternator 4 times. >> >> Air conditioning work EVERY year. >> >> It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in >> time. > >You should have just pulled it out of the garage and let it burn. Nah...it was in the driveway. I 'gave' it away after that.... btw I take damned good care of my 'wheels'. It is just that you HAVE to with American junk... My Toyotas are a dream compared with the American Iron I've owned. Very boring these Toys.... > >> Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles.... > >Not every Escort was great, just like not every Camry is great. > >But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. > >Jeff > >> Scott in Florida >> >> -- Scott in Florida |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:17:30 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message >news:k18cb3ptq6sajjsm6idqgiaek5gm6kgi4s@4ax.com.. . >> On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>>Ford >>>Escort >> >> Horse Hockey! >> >> I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000. >> >> New alternator 4 times. >> >> Air conditioning work EVERY year. >> >> It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in >> time. > >You should have just pulled it out of the garage and let it burn. Nah...it was in the driveway. I 'gave' it away after that.... btw I take damned good care of my 'wheels'. It is just that you HAVE to with American junk... My Toyotas are a dream compared with the American Iron I've owned. Very boring these Toys.... > >> Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles.... > >Not every Escort was great, just like not every Camry is great. > >But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. > >Jeff > >> Scott in Florida >> >> -- Scott in Florida |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
"Ashton Crusher" <demi@moore.net> wrote in message news:9shp33t97btf07i01mfuej3jh438sqdpb4@4ax.com... > On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:46:16 -0700, "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote: > >>My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look quite >>nice. It's the long term quality of the car. My wife gets a new company >>car >>every couple of years. The are usually great for the 30K miles or so. >>Around >>35 to 40K they start have little issues, they seem to get louder and the >>ride is a noticeably rougher. On a couple of the vehicles you could feel >>the >>transmission start to slip. By the time she turns it in at around 60K >>miles, >>we can't wait to get rid of it. >> > > Maybe so, yet we run hundreds of "American" cars in our fleet and this > just never happens. Most run way past 100K. > At the end of January I picked up a Jag x-type with 3200 miles from a relative. I bartered my 1992 Taurus with over 100,000 very hard New York City miles on it to my mechanic for some work on my GMC truck. He serviced the car for the past five years and promptly gave the car as a present to one of his brothers without so much as changing the oil. The kid took their mother to Florida and back in the car and they had nothing but compliments and thanks for me upon their return. The only conclusion I can come to is that Ford makes junk but not everyone recognizes it, or that possibly the reputation of Japanese cars is a bit exaggerated. Double Tap |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
"Ashton Crusher" <demi@moore.net> wrote in message news:9shp33t97btf07i01mfuej3jh438sqdpb4@4ax.com... > On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:46:16 -0700, "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote: > >>My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look quite >>nice. It's the long term quality of the car. My wife gets a new company >>car >>every couple of years. The are usually great for the 30K miles or so. >>Around >>35 to 40K they start have little issues, they seem to get louder and the >>ride is a noticeably rougher. On a couple of the vehicles you could feel >>the >>transmission start to slip. By the time she turns it in at around 60K >>miles, >>we can't wait to get rid of it. >> > > Maybe so, yet we run hundreds of "American" cars in our fleet and this > just never happens. Most run way past 100K. > At the end of January I picked up a Jag x-type with 3200 miles from a relative. I bartered my 1992 Taurus with over 100,000 very hard New York City miles on it to my mechanic for some work on my GMC truck. He serviced the car for the past five years and promptly gave the car as a present to one of his brothers without so much as changing the oil. The kid took their mother to Florida and back in the car and they had nothing but compliments and thanks for me upon their return. The only conclusion I can come to is that Ford makes junk but not everyone recognizes it, or that possibly the reputation of Japanese cars is a bit exaggerated. Double Tap |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On 5 May 2007 10:05:55 -0700, isquat@gmail.com wrote:
> >i'm surprised toyolet Nothing like an intelligent comment. <G> And people wonder why nobody takes their comments seriously. |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On 5 May 2007 10:05:55 -0700, isquat@gmail.com wrote:
> >i'm surprised toyolet Nothing like an intelligent comment. <G> And people wonder why nobody takes their comments seriously. |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:46:16 -0700, "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote:
>My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look quite >nice. It's the long term quality of the car. Right! I think the Fusion looks GREAT! It's really a nice car. None of my last 4-5 cars have been what I considered the best looking in the class. In fact, if some of the Japanese brands could hire some Detroit designers, we may just get offered the perfect car. I would LOVE for the Fusion to turn out to be a long term, reliable car. It's really a sharp ride! |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:46:16 -0700, "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote:
>My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look quite >nice. It's the long term quality of the car. Right! I think the Fusion looks GREAT! It's really a nice car. None of my last 4-5 cars have been what I considered the best looking in the class. In fact, if some of the Japanese brands could hire some Detroit designers, we may just get offered the perfect car. I would LOVE for the Fusion to turn out to be a long term, reliable car. It's really a sharp ride! |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
He can't prove that by me. I own a four FMC models, a '41, '64, '71 and '83
with 100K to 300K on the clock, that all look and run great. All purchased new and all provided the proper preventive maintenance. Perhaps he bought his used and did not properly maintain them, may account for his biased opinion. mike .. "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:XC2%h.112$py5.88@trnddc06... >>> >>> I have a '97 Contour with over 140k mi on it. It still runs and handles >>> great. Great long-term quality. >>> >>> I have heard similar things about other Fords, Toyotas, Chevys, Hondas, >>> etc. >>> >>> They all make good cars that last a long time. >> >> detroit otoh has vehicle less than 10 years vintage being junked, and >> they're worn out at 1/3rd the mileage. |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
He can't prove that by me. I own a four FMC models, a '41, '64, '71 and '83
with 100K to 300K on the clock, that all look and run great. All purchased new and all provided the proper preventive maintenance. Perhaps he bought his used and did not properly maintain them, may account for his biased opinion. mike .. "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:XC2%h.112$py5.88@trnddc06... >>> >>> I have a '97 Contour with over 140k mi on it. It still runs and handles >>> great. Great long-term quality. >>> >>> I have heard similar things about other Fords, Toyotas, Chevys, Hondas, >>> etc. >>> >>> They all make good cars that last a long time. >> >> detroit otoh has vehicle less than 10 years vintage being junked, and >> they're worn out at 1/3rd the mileage. |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
For whom does your wife work and what are her duties, that she would be
given such diverse types of vehicles? I owned a fleet service business that operated in six eastern states and I never of such diversity. mike "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com... > Let's see if I can remember them all > Jeep Cherokee - The worst. This thing was in the shop ever few months. > brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks > once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The > steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was > driving straight. This happened twice. > > Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the transmission > started slipping. > > Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay > > Ford Windstar knobs and parts started falling off within the first few > thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed jobs. > > Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering > wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning. > > Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was fairly > nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating. > |
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