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Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message news:3pGdnb103fapv6DbnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... > Jeff wrote: > <snip for clarity> > > jeff, again, > > 1. define "a long time". > 2. how do you account for the age profiles of vehicles in junk yards? I can show you junk yards that only have Japanese vehicles. Does that mean that Japanese vehicle are junk? Ed |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
"C. E. White" <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:ffm%h.7336$Ut6.2984@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net... > > "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... > >> But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. > > I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller with > an Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back they wre > mazed when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. I missed the Lexus, but I did hear about the long-running Escort. And the answer the puzzler, "Scent." Jeff > Ed > |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
"C. E. White" <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:ffm%h.7336$Ut6.2984@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net... > > "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... > >> But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. > > I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller with > an Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back they wre > mazed when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. I missed the Lexus, but I did hear about the long-running Escort. And the answer the puzzler, "Scent." Jeff > Ed > |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
C. E. White wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message > news:3pGdnb103fapv6DbnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >> Jeff wrote: >> <snip for clarity> >> >> jeff, again, >> >> 1. define "a long time". >> 2. how do you account for the age profiles of vehicles in junk yards? > > I can show you junk yards that only have Japanese vehicles. Does that mean > that Japanese vehicle are junk? > > Ed > > sure! |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
C. E. White wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message > news:3pGdnb103fapv6DbnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >> Jeff wrote: >> <snip for clarity> >> >> jeff, again, >> >> 1. define "a long time". >> 2. how do you account for the age profiles of vehicles in junk yards? > > I can show you junk yards that only have Japanese vehicles. Does that mean > that Japanese vehicle are junk? > > Ed > > sure! |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
Jeff wrote:
> > "C. E. White" <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:ffm%h.7336$Ut6.2984@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net... >> >> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... >> >>> But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. >> >> I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller >> with an Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back >> they wre mazed when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. > > I missed the Lexus, but I did hear about the long-running Escort. And > the answer the puzzler, "Scent." that's completely logical! |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
Jeff wrote:
> > "C. E. White" <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:ffm%h.7336$Ut6.2984@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net... >> >> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... >> >>> But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. >> >> I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller >> with an Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back >> they wre mazed when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. > > I missed the Lexus, but I did hear about the long-running Escort. And > the answer the puzzler, "Scent." that's completely logical! |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sun, 06 May 2007 15:12:11 GMT, "C. E. White"
<cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote: > >"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message >news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... > >> But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. > >I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller with an >Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back they wre mazed >when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. > >Ed > ROFL You can say anything on the phone..... -- Scott in Florida |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sun, 06 May 2007 15:12:11 GMT, "C. E. White"
<cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote: > >"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message >news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... > >> But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. > >I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller with an >Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back they wre mazed >when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. > >Ed > ROFL You can say anything on the phone..... -- Scott in Florida |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
Scott in Florida wrote: > On Sun, 06 May 2007 15:12:11 GMT, "C. E. White" > <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote: > > >>"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message >>news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... >> >> >>>But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. >> >>I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller with an >>Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back they wre mazed >>when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. >> >>Ed >> > > > ROFL > > > You can say anything on the phone..... > ....or on usenet! JT |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
Scott in Florida wrote: > On Sun, 06 May 2007 15:12:11 GMT, "C. E. White" > <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote: > > >>"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message >>news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... >> >> >>>But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. >> >>I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller with an >>Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back they wre mazed >>when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. >> >>Ed >> > > > ROFL > > > You can say anything on the phone..... > ....or on usenet! JT |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sun, 06 May 2007 16:36:54 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
<Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote: > > >Scott in Florida wrote: > >> On Sun, 06 May 2007 15:12:11 GMT, "C. E. White" >> <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >>>"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message >>>news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... >>> >>> >>>>But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. >>> >>>I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller with an >>>Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back they wre mazed >>>when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. >>> >>>Ed >>> >> >> >> ROFL >> >> >> You can say anything on the phone..... >> > > >...or on usenet! > >JT True, but if you are on Usenet long enough you'll get caught..... -- Scott in Florida |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
On Sun, 06 May 2007 16:36:54 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
<Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote: > > >Scott in Florida wrote: > >> On Sun, 06 May 2007 15:12:11 GMT, "C. E. White" >> <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >>>"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message >>>news:eL4%h.3580$pW5.3316@trnddc07... >>> >>> >>>>But a lot of Escorts go a long ways. >>> >>>I was listening to Car Talk yesterday (5/5/07) and they had a caller with an >>>Escort that had over 300,000 miles. A couple of weeks back they wre mazed >>>when a guy with a Lexus over 200,00 k called in. >>> >>>Ed >>> >> >> >> ROFL >> >> >> You can say anything on the phone..... >> > > >...or on usenet! > >JT True, but if you are on Usenet long enough you'll get caught..... -- Scott in Florida |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
I think you're right on there. It's ok for the family sedan to look
bland, but some of these Fords look awful. The Fusion was a redesigned Mazda 6, and it was less safe than the Mazda 6 in crash tests. I'm staying away from Fords until they improve for sure. That said, I'm much more impressed with GM's turnaround in the past year. At least I am willing to drive past a GM lot now. Do check out the new Saturn Aura. It's not quite there but getting there with the new Hydramatic 6L series tranny! GM had a $5000 legacy disadvantage compared to the imports (and even now Toyota is thinking of giving it's US workers a big haircut according to a leaked internal document). When you pay GM $18K a few years ago you're getting only a $13K car. Now it's like getting a $16K car and I like the improvement I see in the Lambda and Epsilon platforms. On May 2, 9:50 pm, Ashton Crusher <d...@moore.net> wrote: > I think one of Fords (and Chevy's) problems is that their car designs > suck. Every time I see a Fusion, or Milan, or the new Lincoln, etc on > the road I am struck by how ugly they are. Pretty much the same for > most of the Chevy's. > > By contrast, look at the Nissan Altima. It's just a basic mid level > car but it looks NICE and they have made it look like QUALITY thru the > choices of materials and other design features. On some of the > Chevy's one of the things that often catches my eye is how things like > the parking lot rub strip doesn't even seem like it was glued on > straight. And don't get me started on the huge amount of cheap > plastic they glue to every Pontiac that comes down the assembly line. |
Re: Fusion vs Camry and Accord - the Ford Challenge
I think you're right on there. It's ok for the family sedan to look
bland, but some of these Fords look awful. The Fusion was a redesigned Mazda 6, and it was less safe than the Mazda 6 in crash tests. I'm staying away from Fords until they improve for sure. That said, I'm much more impressed with GM's turnaround in the past year. At least I am willing to drive past a GM lot now. Do check out the new Saturn Aura. It's not quite there but getting there with the new Hydramatic 6L series tranny! GM had a $5000 legacy disadvantage compared to the imports (and even now Toyota is thinking of giving it's US workers a big haircut according to a leaked internal document). When you pay GM $18K a few years ago you're getting only a $13K car. Now it's like getting a $16K car and I like the improvement I see in the Lambda and Epsilon platforms. On May 2, 9:50 pm, Ashton Crusher <d...@moore.net> wrote: > I think one of Fords (and Chevy's) problems is that their car designs > suck. Every time I see a Fusion, or Milan, or the new Lincoln, etc on > the road I am struck by how ugly they are. Pretty much the same for > most of the Chevy's. > > By contrast, look at the Nissan Altima. It's just a basic mid level > car but it looks NICE and they have made it look like QUALITY thru the > choices of materials and other design features. On some of the > Chevy's one of the things that often catches my eye is how things like > the parking lot rub strip doesn't even seem like it was glued on > straight. And don't get me started on the huge amount of cheap > plastic they glue to every Pontiac that comes down the assembly line. |
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