Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
> The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil > conversion plant > I'm waiting, Mr. President. Please answer before the impeachment > proceedings begin to put you out of the warmongering business (or the > Generals do a coup d'etat). > But you would still be an idiot! I think 'people-owned' is significant... Aint no crooks in them communes, no-sir! Life is so simple for the simple minded... -- Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:50:01 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
<nobody@dizum.com> wrote: >The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >conversion plant and extract as much gasoline, from domestic coal, as we >need, independently of foreign nations. We could just about balance our >budget just on that one item alone. Just call it Manhattan Project II and >get started. > >Gasoline would be cheap and stay that way, once foreigners, greedy oil >companies, and profits are taken out of the picture. And even if it wasn't >cheap, its still cheap enough compared to losing our manhood to the Arab >sheiks, Venezuelan strongman, Nigerian Mau-mau, and so on down the line. > >That is, if we wanted to. Call the troops home today and we will have >collectively, $1,500,000,000.00 a month to invest in Manhattan Project II >until its done. Put it to the vote of the people: Do they want >gasoline-a-plenty at low cost for ourselves and generations to come, or do >they want to see our beloved country go bankcrupt...to Hell in a handbasket >with empty tanked SUV cars and Pickups littering the landscape and >cemetaries full of their dead soldier-children? > >I'm waiting, Mr. President. Please answer before the impeachment >proceedings begin to put you out of the warmongering business (or the >Generals do a coup d'etat). Exactly what South Africa did when the UN sanctions were on them in the sixties/seventies. Made all their own gasoline from coal, and their gas cost less in 1973 than real gas dis in Zambia, who could buy wherever they wanted. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:50:01 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
<nobody@dizum.com> wrote: >The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >conversion plant and extract as much gasoline, from domestic coal, as we >need, independently of foreign nations. We could just about balance our >budget just on that one item alone. Just call it Manhattan Project II and >get started. > >Gasoline would be cheap and stay that way, once foreigners, greedy oil >companies, and profits are taken out of the picture. And even if it wasn't >cheap, its still cheap enough compared to losing our manhood to the Arab >sheiks, Venezuelan strongman, Nigerian Mau-mau, and so on down the line. > >That is, if we wanted to. Call the troops home today and we will have >collectively, $1,500,000,000.00 a month to invest in Manhattan Project II >until its done. Put it to the vote of the people: Do they want >gasoline-a-plenty at low cost for ourselves and generations to come, or do >they want to see our beloved country go bankcrupt...to Hell in a handbasket >with empty tanked SUV cars and Pickups littering the landscape and >cemetaries full of their dead soldier-children? > >I'm waiting, Mr. President. Please answer before the impeachment >proceedings begin to put you out of the warmongering business (or the >Generals do a coup d'etat). Exactly what South Africa did when the UN sanctions were on them in the sixties/seventies. Made all their own gasoline from coal, and their gas cost less in 1973 than real gas dis in Zambia, who could buy wherever they wanted. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:50:01 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
<nobody@dizum.com> wrote: >The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >conversion plant and extract as much gasoline, from domestic coal, as we >need, independently of foreign nations. We could just about balance our >budget just on that one item alone. Just call it Manhattan Project II and >get started. > >Gasoline would be cheap and stay that way, once foreigners, greedy oil >companies, and profits are taken out of the picture. And even if it wasn't >cheap, its still cheap enough compared to losing our manhood to the Arab >sheiks, Venezuelan strongman, Nigerian Mau-mau, and so on down the line. > >That is, if we wanted to. Call the troops home today and we will have >collectively, $1,500,000,000.00 a month to invest in Manhattan Project II >until its done. Put it to the vote of the people: Do they want >gasoline-a-plenty at low cost for ourselves and generations to come, or do >they want to see our beloved country go bankcrupt...to Hell in a handbasket >with empty tanked SUV cars and Pickups littering the landscape and >cemetaries full of their dead soldier-children? > >I'm waiting, Mr. President. Please answer before the impeachment >proceedings begin to put you out of the warmongering business (or the >Generals do a coup d'etat). Exactly what South Africa did when the UN sanctions were on them in the sixties/seventies. Made all their own gasoline from coal, and their gas cost less in 1973 than real gas dis in Zambia, who could buy wherever they wanted. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > The problem is that no town or city wants any type of power plant to > be built in their back yard. I live in a county that has a Nuclear > Power Plant. The liberals in this state have been trying to close down > that Nuclear Power Plant for the past 20 years. There has not been a > new Nuclear Power Plant built in the past 20 years. The reason is > because no person in America wants a Nuclear Power plant or a Coal to > Oil Conversion Plant to be built in their back yard. There is even a > name for it---NIMBY--. > Jason > Read the Washington Post op-ed... not just nimby, now it's BANANAs (build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything. No it's time for people to take action alright. First step: The Fed's should reclaim all territory 12 miles off the beach in the Gulf and drill. -- Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > The problem is that no town or city wants any type of power plant to > be built in their back yard. I live in a county that has a Nuclear > Power Plant. The liberals in this state have been trying to close down > that Nuclear Power Plant for the past 20 years. There has not been a > new Nuclear Power Plant built in the past 20 years. The reason is > because no person in America wants a Nuclear Power plant or a Coal to > Oil Conversion Plant to be built in their back yard. There is even a > name for it---NIMBY--. > Jason > Read the Washington Post op-ed... not just nimby, now it's BANANAs (build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything. No it's time for people to take action alright. First step: The Fed's should reclaim all territory 12 miles off the beach in the Gulf and drill. -- Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > The problem is that no town or city wants any type of power plant to > be built in their back yard. I live in a county that has a Nuclear > Power Plant. The liberals in this state have been trying to close down > that Nuclear Power Plant for the past 20 years. There has not been a > new Nuclear Power Plant built in the past 20 years. The reason is > because no person in America wants a Nuclear Power plant or a Coal to > Oil Conversion Plant to be built in their back yard. There is even a > name for it---NIMBY--. > Jason > Read the Washington Post op-ed... not just nimby, now it's BANANAs (build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything. No it's time for people to take action alright. First step: The Fed's should reclaim all territory 12 miles off the beach in the Gulf and drill. -- Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:35:49 -0700, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>In article <6e44b58d2c244460da06f2402dd9e1da@dizum.com>, Nomen Nescio ><nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > >> The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >> conversion plant and extract as much gasoline, from domestic coal, as we >> need, independently of foreign nations. We could just about balance our >> budget just on that one item alone. Just call it Manhattan Project II and >> get started. >> >> Gasoline would be cheap and stay that way, once foreigners, greedy oil >> companies, and profits are taken out of the picture. And even if it wasn't >> cheap, its still cheap enough compared to losing our manhood to the Arab >> sheiks, Venezuelan strongman, Nigerian Mau-mau, and so on down the line. >> >> That is, if we wanted to. Call the troops home today and we will have >> collectively, $1,500,000,000.00 a month to invest in Manhattan Project II >> until its done. Put it to the vote of the people: Do they want >> gasoline-a-plenty at low cost for ourselves and generations to come, or do >> they want to see our beloved country go bankcrupt...to Hell in a handbasket >> with empty tanked SUV cars and Pickups littering the landscape and >> cemetaries full of their dead soldier-children? >> >> I'm waiting, Mr. President. Please answer before the impeachment >> proceedings begin to put you out of the warmongering business (or the >> Generals do a coup d'etat). > >The problem is that no town or city wants any type of power plant to be >built in their back yard. I live in a county that has a Nuclear Power >Plant. The liberals in this state have been trying to close down that >Nuclear Power Plant for the past 20 years. There has not been a new >Nuclear Power Plant built in the past 20 years. The reason is because >no person in America wants a Nuclear Power plant or a Coal to Oil >Conversion Plant to be built in their back yard. There is even a name >for it---NIMBY--. >Jason Forget coat to oil - when was the last OIL REFINERY built in the USA???? *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:35:49 -0700, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>In article <6e44b58d2c244460da06f2402dd9e1da@dizum.com>, Nomen Nescio ><nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > >> The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >> conversion plant and extract as much gasoline, from domestic coal, as we >> need, independently of foreign nations. We could just about balance our >> budget just on that one item alone. Just call it Manhattan Project II and >> get started. >> >> Gasoline would be cheap and stay that way, once foreigners, greedy oil >> companies, and profits are taken out of the picture. And even if it wasn't >> cheap, its still cheap enough compared to losing our manhood to the Arab >> sheiks, Venezuelan strongman, Nigerian Mau-mau, and so on down the line. >> >> That is, if we wanted to. Call the troops home today and we will have >> collectively, $1,500,000,000.00 a month to invest in Manhattan Project II >> until its done. Put it to the vote of the people: Do they want >> gasoline-a-plenty at low cost for ourselves and generations to come, or do >> they want to see our beloved country go bankcrupt...to Hell in a handbasket >> with empty tanked SUV cars and Pickups littering the landscape and >> cemetaries full of their dead soldier-children? >> >> I'm waiting, Mr. President. Please answer before the impeachment >> proceedings begin to put you out of the warmongering business (or the >> Generals do a coup d'etat). > >The problem is that no town or city wants any type of power plant to be >built in their back yard. I live in a county that has a Nuclear Power >Plant. The liberals in this state have been trying to close down that >Nuclear Power Plant for the past 20 years. There has not been a new >Nuclear Power Plant built in the past 20 years. The reason is because >no person in America wants a Nuclear Power plant or a Coal to Oil >Conversion Plant to be built in their back yard. There is even a name >for it---NIMBY--. >Jason Forget coat to oil - when was the last OIL REFINERY built in the USA???? *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:35:49 -0700, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>In article <6e44b58d2c244460da06f2402dd9e1da@dizum.com>, Nomen Nescio ><nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > >> The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >> conversion plant and extract as much gasoline, from domestic coal, as we >> need, independently of foreign nations. We could just about balance our >> budget just on that one item alone. Just call it Manhattan Project II and >> get started. >> >> Gasoline would be cheap and stay that way, once foreigners, greedy oil >> companies, and profits are taken out of the picture. And even if it wasn't >> cheap, its still cheap enough compared to losing our manhood to the Arab >> sheiks, Venezuelan strongman, Nigerian Mau-mau, and so on down the line. >> >> That is, if we wanted to. Call the troops home today and we will have >> collectively, $1,500,000,000.00 a month to invest in Manhattan Project II >> until its done. Put it to the vote of the people: Do they want >> gasoline-a-plenty at low cost for ourselves and generations to come, or do >> they want to see our beloved country go bankcrupt...to Hell in a handbasket >> with empty tanked SUV cars and Pickups littering the landscape and >> cemetaries full of their dead soldier-children? >> >> I'm waiting, Mr. President. Please answer before the impeachment >> proceedings begin to put you out of the warmongering business (or the >> Generals do a coup d'etat). > >The problem is that no town or city wants any type of power plant to be >built in their back yard. I live in a county that has a Nuclear Power >Plant. The liberals in this state have been trying to close down that >Nuclear Power Plant for the past 20 years. There has not been a new >Nuclear Power Plant built in the past 20 years. The reason is because >no person in America wants a Nuclear Power plant or a Coal to Oil >Conversion Plant to be built in their back yard. There is even a name >for it---NIMBY--. >Jason Forget coat to oil - when was the last OIL REFINERY built in the USA???? *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
No need to wait, the President has already provided 100 million in federal
money to do almost exactly that, as part of his plan to reduce our dependency on imported crude. It is not gasoline from coal but clean burning, low sulfur, diesel fuel. A plant is being built as we speak in Schuylkill County Pennsylvania that will convert coal calm (waste coal) into fuel to be used by the state of Pennsylvania. Eastern Pennsylvania has the world largest reserves of clean burning low sulfur anthracite coal. Using new coal would be more costly than using culm. Even producing diesel fuel from waste coal cost much more the conventional fuel oil and much more than it would coat to produce gasoline. The only thing that is making that plant cost effective is the Company has been given a ten year tax exemption, under Pennsylvania's Keystone development plan that is designed to return "brown fields," polluted areas, into tax producing lands. In addition the diesel fuel will not be taxed by the state of federal government. The current federal tax is ..185c per gallon and the Pa state tax is .26C The sad part is even at $70 a barrel gasoline is still so cheap as a motor fuel that crude will need to go over $100 a barrel before ANY of the alternate fuel will cost less and can be sold at a profit. Search "The Bud Angst Report » Blog Archive » PA Leads With Coal-to-Oil Solution To Address Energy Needs" mike hunt "Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message news:Xns97AAB7EE1F223pettyfogery@207.115.17.102... > Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > >> The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >> conversion plant > >> I'm waiting, Mr. President. > > But you would still be an idiot! > I think 'people-owned' is significant... Aint no crooks in them communes, > no-sir! > > Life is so simple for the simple minded... > > > -- > Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price > you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
No need to wait, the President has already provided 100 million in federal
money to do almost exactly that, as part of his plan to reduce our dependency on imported crude. It is not gasoline from coal but clean burning, low sulfur, diesel fuel. A plant is being built as we speak in Schuylkill County Pennsylvania that will convert coal calm (waste coal) into fuel to be used by the state of Pennsylvania. Eastern Pennsylvania has the world largest reserves of clean burning low sulfur anthracite coal. Using new coal would be more costly than using culm. Even producing diesel fuel from waste coal cost much more the conventional fuel oil and much more than it would coat to produce gasoline. The only thing that is making that plant cost effective is the Company has been given a ten year tax exemption, under Pennsylvania's Keystone development plan that is designed to return "brown fields," polluted areas, into tax producing lands. In addition the diesel fuel will not be taxed by the state of federal government. The current federal tax is ..185c per gallon and the Pa state tax is .26C The sad part is even at $70 a barrel gasoline is still so cheap as a motor fuel that crude will need to go over $100 a barrel before ANY of the alternate fuel will cost less and can be sold at a profit. Search "The Bud Angst Report » Blog Archive » PA Leads With Coal-to-Oil Solution To Address Energy Needs" mike hunt "Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message news:Xns97AAB7EE1F223pettyfogery@207.115.17.102... > Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > >> The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >> conversion plant > >> I'm waiting, Mr. President. > > But you would still be an idiot! > I think 'people-owned' is significant... Aint no crooks in them communes, > no-sir! > > Life is so simple for the simple minded... > > > -- > Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price > you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
No need to wait, the President has already provided 100 million in federal
money to do almost exactly that, as part of his plan to reduce our dependency on imported crude. It is not gasoline from coal but clean burning, low sulfur, diesel fuel. A plant is being built as we speak in Schuylkill County Pennsylvania that will convert coal calm (waste coal) into fuel to be used by the state of Pennsylvania. Eastern Pennsylvania has the world largest reserves of clean burning low sulfur anthracite coal. Using new coal would be more costly than using culm. Even producing diesel fuel from waste coal cost much more the conventional fuel oil and much more than it would coat to produce gasoline. The only thing that is making that plant cost effective is the Company has been given a ten year tax exemption, under Pennsylvania's Keystone development plan that is designed to return "brown fields," polluted areas, into tax producing lands. In addition the diesel fuel will not be taxed by the state of federal government. The current federal tax is ..185c per gallon and the Pa state tax is .26C The sad part is even at $70 a barrel gasoline is still so cheap as a motor fuel that crude will need to go over $100 a barrel before ANY of the alternate fuel will cost less and can be sold at a profit. Search "The Bud Angst Report » Blog Archive » PA Leads With Coal-to-Oil Solution To Address Energy Needs" mike hunt "Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message news:Xns97AAB7EE1F223pettyfogery@207.115.17.102... > Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > >> The People of the United States could build a people-owned coal-to-oil >> conversion plant > >> I'm waiting, Mr. President. > > But you would still be an idiot! > I think 'people-owned' is significant... Aint no crooks in them communes, > no-sir! > > Life is so simple for the simple minded... > > > -- > Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price > you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
In article <Xns97AAB9CD7E410pettyfogery@207.115.17.102>, Backyard Mechanic
<pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote: > jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that no town or city wants any type of power plant to > > be built in their back yard. I live in a county that has a Nuclear > > Power Plant. The liberals in this state have been trying to close down > > that Nuclear Power Plant for the past 20 years. There has not been a > > new Nuclear Power Plant built in the past 20 years. The reason is > > because no person in America wants a Nuclear Power plant or a Coal to > > Oil Conversion Plant to be built in their back yard. There is even a > > name for it---NIMBY--. > > Jason > > > > Read the Washington Post op-ed... not just nimby, now it's BANANAs (build > absolutely nothing anywhere near anything. > > No it's time for people to take action alright. First step: The Fed's > should reclaim all territory 12 miles off the beach in the Gulf and > drill. In New Orleans--the Fed's should not allow anything to be built in those areas that were destroyed during the last hurricane. Someone stated, "Let's rebuild New Orleans in a different part of the state that is ABOVE sea level." I agree with the person that made that statement. However, they will not follow this advice. The end result will be that New Orleans will be destroyed again within the next 10 years by another hurricane. It's kind of like rebuilding a house located next to a large river everytime there is a flood. New Orleans should be declared "Wetlands". The Fed's protect the Wetlands in some areas but they don't seem to care about the fact that New Orleans is a Wetland. Jason -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
In article <Xns97AAB9CD7E410pettyfogery@207.115.17.102>, Backyard Mechanic
<pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote: > jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that no town or city wants any type of power plant to > > be built in their back yard. I live in a county that has a Nuclear > > Power Plant. The liberals in this state have been trying to close down > > that Nuclear Power Plant for the past 20 years. There has not been a > > new Nuclear Power Plant built in the past 20 years. The reason is > > because no person in America wants a Nuclear Power plant or a Coal to > > Oil Conversion Plant to be built in their back yard. There is even a > > name for it---NIMBY--. > > Jason > > > > Read the Washington Post op-ed... not just nimby, now it's BANANAs (build > absolutely nothing anywhere near anything. > > No it's time for people to take action alright. First step: The Fed's > should reclaim all territory 12 miles off the beach in the Gulf and > drill. In New Orleans--the Fed's should not allow anything to be built in those areas that were destroyed during the last hurricane. Someone stated, "Let's rebuild New Orleans in a different part of the state that is ABOVE sea level." I agree with the person that made that statement. However, they will not follow this advice. The end result will be that New Orleans will be destroyed again within the next 10 years by another hurricane. It's kind of like rebuilding a house located next to a large river everytime there is a flood. New Orleans should be declared "Wetlands". The Fed's protect the Wetlands in some areas but they don't seem to care about the fact that New Orleans is a Wetland. Jason -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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