Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

<HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:

>
> "gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1145504441.001109.83470@u72g2000cwu.googlegro ups.com...
>> Did you really say 100 million? 100 million is only 1/5 of what that
>> Exxon Mobil guy will take home as a pension.
>
> Well, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan now has a price tag of $10
> billion per month. Makes that $100 million look like a tip jar on a
bar.
>
> Penny ante lip service.

Look... I'll give you ostriches a little hint.

Denmark, Norway, France and Germany aint fighting in Iraq. Check out
deeply into some of their news items.
There's far more at stake here than the price of oil.

Now if we're gonna talk about energy, let's do that and leave out the
Bush Derangement Syndrome comments....and I'll nail Dubya and his brother
for what they arent doing on the issue.
On the other hand, if you want to pretend that there's some Trilateral
Commission crap going on, then you deserve what you get from it.

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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

In article <VzC1g.9168$i41.9016@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com says...
> No, I live about 30 km from school. I take a diesel-electric train to the
> train terminal, then two electric subway trains. Most of my students either
> walk, take a diesel bus or the subway there.
>
And that electric is probably oil generated, and diesel is just another
fuel oil produced from crude.
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

In article <VzC1g.9168$i41.9016@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com says...
> No, I live about 30 km from school. I take a diesel-electric train to the
> train terminal, then two electric subway trains. Most of my students either
> walk, take a diesel bus or the subway there.
>
And that electric is probably oil generated, and diesel is just another
fuel oil produced from crude.
--
Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

In article <VzC1g.9168$i41.9016@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com says...
> No, I live about 30 km from school. I take a diesel-electric train to the
> train terminal, then two electric subway trains. Most of my students either
> walk, take a diesel bus or the subway there.
>
And that electric is probably oil generated, and diesel is just another
fuel oil produced from crude.
--
Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would need
to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..


mike hunt



"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:akJ1g.6314$Es3.33@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4yC1g.9166$i41.2725@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:pSadnXMgH7CpW9vZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> That is a good idea, the only problem is it will not solve the problem.
>>> It will reduce the INCREASE in the amount of oil we import but not our
>>> need for the fast amounts of crude we use to fuel the various economies
>>> of
>>> the world. Gasoline is only a small part of why we need to import crude.
>>
>> According the DOE, almost half of the crude oil is refined into gasoline,
>> hardly "only a small part."

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would need
to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..


mike hunt



"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:akJ1g.6314$Es3.33@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4yC1g.9166$i41.2725@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:pSadnXMgH7CpW9vZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> That is a good idea, the only problem is it will not solve the problem.
>>> It will reduce the INCREASE in the amount of oil we import but not our
>>> need for the fast amounts of crude we use to fuel the various economies
>>> of
>>> the world. Gasoline is only a small part of why we need to import crude.
>>
>> According the DOE, almost half of the crude oil is refined into gasoline,
>> hardly "only a small part."

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would need
to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..


mike hunt



"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:akJ1g.6314$Es3.33@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4yC1g.9166$i41.2725@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:pSadnXMgH7CpW9vZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> That is a good idea, the only problem is it will not solve the problem.
>>> It will reduce the INCREASE in the amount of oil we import but not our
>>> need for the fast amounts of crude we use to fuel the various economies
>>> of
>>> the world. Gasoline is only a small part of why we need to import crude.
>>
>> According the DOE, almost half of the crude oil is refined into gasoline,
>> hardly "only a small part."

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Just how do you think the 'White House' can control the price of gasoline?


mike hunt


"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145503986.583880.162160@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Agreeed! The energy companies along with our wonderful White House that
> will keep the people at bay. They do not want you to succeed. 500
> million to an Exxon Mobil exec??? For what, for stealing from the
> people... Incredibal!
>
> Gerald
>

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Just how do you think the 'White House' can control the price of gasoline?


mike hunt


"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145503986.583880.162160@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Agreeed! The energy companies along with our wonderful White House that
> will keep the people at bay. They do not want you to succeed. 500
> million to an Exxon Mobil exec??? For what, for stealing from the
> people... Incredibal!
>
> Gerald
>

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Just how do you think the 'White House' can control the price of gasoline?


mike hunt


"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145503986.583880.162160@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Agreeed! The energy companies along with our wonderful White House that
> will keep the people at bay. They do not want you to succeed. 500
> million to an Exxon Mobil exec??? For what, for stealing from the
> people... Incredibal!
>
> Gerald
>

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:05:41 GMT, <HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:

>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145503224.230606.116190@t31g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>> Nomen?
>>
>> First off I'm not sure why you would not want your post archived... ?
>> Secondly I do think that People Owned had anything to do with the
>> U.S.S.R.
>> That was a dictatorship. The People owned nothing... My wife is from
>> Russia... She is wonderful...
>
>Indeed, Russia was an oligarchy if not a dictatorship. Even so, the people
>probably lived better and progressed faster than had the monarchy system
>of the czars persisted.
>
>The 'people' used to own the train system and underground in the United
>Kingdom
>as well. The transportation was good, and affordable. Ditto the health
>care system.
>
>After privatization, it all went to hell in a handbasket.
>
Eh? pre what, 85 I think it was, trains were nasty, smelly anf filthy.
statoins were dark and often dank, trains were slow and often not on
time, and my local mainline station at the time had no working
electronic scheduals (the dot matrix board was always broke, and all
the monitor screens had severe phosphor burn.

Nowadays, trains are faster, cleaner, and the stations are actually
nice to be in. I saw a prorgam on PBS the other day as well, a British
guy going around the southern UK and wales after 20 years away, and he
was amazed by the trains. Hell, liverpool lime street's got clean
glass over head for the first time in over 60 years. and Edge Hill
station (one of the worlds first stations, and the one between
Liverpools main station, and the station roughly where the Rocket was
tested) doesn't look like a bomb site any more.

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:05:41 GMT, <HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:

>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145503224.230606.116190@t31g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>> Nomen?
>>
>> First off I'm not sure why you would not want your post archived... ?
>> Secondly I do think that People Owned had anything to do with the
>> U.S.S.R.
>> That was a dictatorship. The People owned nothing... My wife is from
>> Russia... She is wonderful...
>
>Indeed, Russia was an oligarchy if not a dictatorship. Even so, the people
>probably lived better and progressed faster than had the monarchy system
>of the czars persisted.
>
>The 'people' used to own the train system and underground in the United
>Kingdom
>as well. The transportation was good, and affordable. Ditto the health
>care system.
>
>After privatization, it all went to hell in a handbasket.
>
Eh? pre what, 85 I think it was, trains were nasty, smelly anf filthy.
statoins were dark and often dank, trains were slow and often not on
time, and my local mainline station at the time had no working
electronic scheduals (the dot matrix board was always broke, and all
the monitor screens had severe phosphor burn.

Nowadays, trains are faster, cleaner, and the stations are actually
nice to be in. I saw a prorgam on PBS the other day as well, a British
guy going around the southern UK and wales after 20 years away, and he
was amazed by the trains. Hell, liverpool lime street's got clean
glass over head for the first time in over 60 years. and Edge Hill
station (one of the worlds first stations, and the one between
Liverpools main station, and the station roughly where the Rocket was
tested) doesn't look like a bomb site any more.

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:05:41 GMT, <HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:

>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145503224.230606.116190@t31g2000cwb.googleg roups.com...
>> Nomen?
>>
>> First off I'm not sure why you would not want your post archived... ?
>> Secondly I do think that People Owned had anything to do with the
>> U.S.S.R.
>> That was a dictatorship. The People owned nothing... My wife is from
>> Russia... She is wonderful...
>
>Indeed, Russia was an oligarchy if not a dictatorship. Even so, the people
>probably lived better and progressed faster than had the monarchy system
>of the czars persisted.
>
>The 'people' used to own the train system and underground in the United
>Kingdom
>as well. The transportation was good, and affordable. Ditto the health
>care system.
>
>After privatization, it all went to hell in a handbasket.
>
Eh? pre what, 85 I think it was, trains were nasty, smelly anf filthy.
statoins were dark and often dank, trains were slow and often not on
time, and my local mainline station at the time had no working
electronic scheduals (the dot matrix board was always broke, and all
the monitor screens had severe phosphor burn.

Nowadays, trains are faster, cleaner, and the stations are actually
nice to be in. I saw a prorgam on PBS the other day as well, a British
guy going around the southern UK and wales after 20 years away, and he
was amazed by the trains. Hell, liverpool lime street's got clean
glass over head for the first time in over 60 years. and Edge Hill
station (one of the worlds first stations, and the one between
Liverpools main station, and the station roughly where the Rocket was
tested) doesn't look like a bomb site any more.

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

<HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:

> The 'people' used to own the train system and underground in the United
> Kingdom
> as well. The transportation was good, and affordable.

Adn heavily subsidized by taxes. Most of which NOW go to...

> Ditto the health care system.
>

Want to run that by, again? Read much?

> (That is probably why the founding fathers preserved the US
> Postal Service as a government function, rather than opening it up to
> entrepreneurs as a business.)

Uh... not exactly. Study up. Think 'Rural electrical coop' for a hint.

Then think how much of your junk mail arrives by FedEx or UPS ...
there's a little hint there as to why first class postal rates keep
rising.



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Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

<HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:

> The 'people' used to own the train system and underground in the United
> Kingdom
> as well. The transportation was good, and affordable.

Adn heavily subsidized by taxes. Most of which NOW go to...

> Ditto the health care system.
>

Want to run that by, again? Read much?

> (That is probably why the founding fathers preserved the US
> Postal Service as a government function, rather than opening it up to
> entrepreneurs as a business.)

Uh... not exactly. Study up. Think 'Rural electrical coop' for a hint.

Then think how much of your junk mail arrives by FedEx or UPS ...
there's a little hint there as to why first class postal rates keep
rising.



--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!