Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you are
> free to do your own search to find what I found.

In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.

Jeff

> mike hunt
>
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:T7O1g.6371$Es3.782@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:qxSdnSZaXJJwONrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Think about it. If one can not pump any more gasoline through the
>>> distribution system because the demand is cut in half, one does not have
>>> any tanks left to store the gasoline, that comes out of a barrel of oil
>>> before one get to the really profitable carbon products, what do you
>>> think they will have to do with the gasoline? ;)
>>
>> I didn't ask you to think about it. I asked for evidence.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4yC1g.9166$i41.2725@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:pSadnXMgH7CpW9vZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>> That is a good idea, the only problem is it will not solve the
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> It will reduce the INCREASE in the amount of oil we import but not our
>>>>> need for the fast amounts of crude we use to fuel the various
>>>>> economies of
>>>>> the world. Gasoline is only a small part of why we need to import
>>>>> crude.
>>>
>>>>> If every
>>>>> vehicle in the US miraculously got twice as many miles per gallon some
>>>>> day
>>>>> we would still need crude for it carbon stocks and the excess gasoline
>>>>> would simply be burned off at the refineries, as it was before it
>>>>> became a
>>>>> motor fuel.
>>>>
>>>> Please give us evidence that excess gasoline would just be burned off.
>>>>
>>>> I mean, before it became a motor fuel? That was when? In 1896?
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Price freeze... Anything over the purchased price plus a percentage of
profit determide by the governement. Our current crisis calls for it
and it includes plently for R&D and building new refinerys.

No tri lateral thing going on here but a bunch of oil exec's that knew
what might happen in the future, called forcasting and rather then be a
percentage about what could fail, they were a percent below what could
fail. 3.09 a gallon here in Wisconsin now. Summer is a couple of months
away. We have not hit the peak yet. Something will happen to change
things I can tell you that much. Allot of jobs are on the line right
now. It is good for the democrates though keeping the gas price high,
makes the right look like dummies.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Price freeze... Anything over the purchased price plus a percentage of
profit determide by the governement. Our current crisis calls for it
and it includes plently for R&D and building new refinerys.

No tri lateral thing going on here but a bunch of oil exec's that knew
what might happen in the future, called forcasting and rather then be a
percentage about what could fail, they were a percent below what could
fail. 3.09 a gallon here in Wisconsin now. Summer is a couple of months
away. We have not hit the peak yet. Something will happen to change
things I can tell you that much. Allot of jobs are on the line right
now. It is good for the democrates though keeping the gas price high,
makes the right look like dummies.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Price freeze... Anything over the purchased price plus a percentage of
profit determide by the governement. Our current crisis calls for it
and it includes plently for R&D and building new refinerys.

No tri lateral thing going on here but a bunch of oil exec's that knew
what might happen in the future, called forcasting and rather then be a
percentage about what could fail, they were a percent below what could
fail. 3.09 a gallon here in Wisconsin now. Summer is a couple of months
away. We have not hit the peak yet. Something will happen to change
things I can tell you that much. Allot of jobs are on the line right
now. It is good for the democrates though keeping the gas price high,
makes the right look like dummies.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

I know about this plant, saw it on CNN I think, it is a great idea but
they need about 30 maybe 40 or more. Start building them right now and
our dependence on crude will start to go away. The coal town will come
back, my only hope is that the great amounts will also be spent to take
care of the miners. Safety and health and a better way to get this coal
out. Our current coal mining ideas are probably very old compared to
what they could be if more money was spent on research.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

I know about this plant, saw it on CNN I think, it is a great idea but
they need about 30 maybe 40 or more. Start building them right now and
our dependence on crude will start to go away. The coal town will come
back, my only hope is that the great amounts will also be spent to take
care of the miners. Safety and health and a better way to get this coal
out. Our current coal mining ideas are probably very old compared to
what they could be if more money was spent on research.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

I know about this plant, saw it on CNN I think, it is a great idea but
they need about 30 maybe 40 or more. Start building them right now and
our dependence on crude will start to go away. The coal town will come
back, my only hope is that the great amounts will also be spent to take
care of the miners. Safety and health and a better way to get this coal
out. Our current coal mining ideas are probably very old compared to
what they could be if more money was spent on research.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

This should help....

The United States and Russia, along with the Organization of Petroleum
Exporting Countries (OPEC), accounted for 61 percent of the total crude
oil produced in the world in 2004. The United States accounted for 7.4
percent of the world's total 2004 crude oil production, and Russia 12
percent. Because uses for crude oil in its natural state are limited,
almost all crude oil is processed into finished petroleum products at a
refinery. The refining process usually involves (1) distillation, or
separation of the hydrocarbons that make up crude oil so that the
heavier products, such as asphalt, are separated from the lighter
products, like kerosene; (2) conversion, or cracking of the molecules
to allow the refiner to squeeze a higher percentage of light products,
such as gasoline, from each barrel of oil; and (3) treatment, or
enhancement of the quality of the product which could entail removing
sulfur from such fuels as kerosene, gasoline, and heating oils. The
addition of blending components to gasoline is also a part of this
process.



Crude oil is measured in barrels. A barrel of 42-U.S. gallons of crude
oil yields slightly more than 44 gallons of petroleum products. This
"process gain" of volume is due to a reduction in the density during
the refining process. In 2004, one barrel of crude oil, when refined,
yielded 19.7 gallons of finished motor gasoline, as well as smaller
quantities of many other petroleum products


Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

This should help....

The United States and Russia, along with the Organization of Petroleum
Exporting Countries (OPEC), accounted for 61 percent of the total crude
oil produced in the world in 2004. The United States accounted for 7.4
percent of the world's total 2004 crude oil production, and Russia 12
percent. Because uses for crude oil in its natural state are limited,
almost all crude oil is processed into finished petroleum products at a
refinery. The refining process usually involves (1) distillation, or
separation of the hydrocarbons that make up crude oil so that the
heavier products, such as asphalt, are separated from the lighter
products, like kerosene; (2) conversion, or cracking of the molecules
to allow the refiner to squeeze a higher percentage of light products,
such as gasoline, from each barrel of oil; and (3) treatment, or
enhancement of the quality of the product which could entail removing
sulfur from such fuels as kerosene, gasoline, and heating oils. The
addition of blending components to gasoline is also a part of this
process.



Crude oil is measured in barrels. A barrel of 42-U.S. gallons of crude
oil yields slightly more than 44 gallons of petroleum products. This
"process gain" of volume is due to a reduction in the density during
the refining process. In 2004, one barrel of crude oil, when refined,
yielded 19.7 gallons of finished motor gasoline, as well as smaller
quantities of many other petroleum products


Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

This should help....

The United States and Russia, along with the Organization of Petroleum
Exporting Countries (OPEC), accounted for 61 percent of the total crude
oil produced in the world in 2004. The United States accounted for 7.4
percent of the world's total 2004 crude oil production, and Russia 12
percent. Because uses for crude oil in its natural state are limited,
almost all crude oil is processed into finished petroleum products at a
refinery. The refining process usually involves (1) distillation, or
separation of the hydrocarbons that make up crude oil so that the
heavier products, such as asphalt, are separated from the lighter
products, like kerosene; (2) conversion, or cracking of the molecules
to allow the refiner to squeeze a higher percentage of light products,
such as gasoline, from each barrel of oil; and (3) treatment, or
enhancement of the quality of the product which could entail removing
sulfur from such fuels as kerosene, gasoline, and heating oils. The
addition of blending components to gasoline is also a part of this
process.



Crude oil is measured in barrels. A barrel of 42-U.S. gallons of crude
oil yields slightly more than 44 gallons of petroleum products. This
"process gain" of volume is due to a reduction in the density during
the refining process. In 2004, one barrel of crude oil, when refined,
yielded 19.7 gallons of finished motor gasoline, as well as smaller
quantities of many other petroleum products


Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

In article <1145594735.502551.294950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>,
"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I know about this plant, saw it on CNN I think, it is a great idea but
> they need about 30 maybe 40 or more. Start building them right now and
> our dependence on crude will start to go away. The coal town will come
> back, my only hope is that the great amounts will also be spent to take
> care of the miners. Safety and health and a better way to get this coal
> out. Our current coal mining ideas are probably very old compared to
> what they could be if more money was spent on research.
>
> Gerald

It won't happen because of the environmental laws. Hell they have a
tough time just upgrading the existing facilities.
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."

-- Vice President Al Gore

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

In article <1145594735.502551.294950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>,
"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I know about this plant, saw it on CNN I think, it is a great idea but
> they need about 30 maybe 40 or more. Start building them right now and
> our dependence on crude will start to go away. The coal town will come
> back, my only hope is that the great amounts will also be spent to take
> care of the miners. Safety and health and a better way to get this coal
> out. Our current coal mining ideas are probably very old compared to
> what they could be if more money was spent on research.
>
> Gerald

It won't happen because of the environmental laws. Hell they have a
tough time just upgrading the existing facilities.
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."

-- Vice President Al Gore