Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

"ron" <really good@serviceu.com> wrote in message
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> So right Jeff. I live in No California and I know people on limited
> incomes will drive 8 or 10 miles each way to by 6 gallons of gasoline to
> save a couple of cents/gallon.
>
> Until it really hurts to buy gasoline, no one will conserve nor will
> anyone even consider proper alternatives.
>
> Hurt level probably double today's price, IMHO. Till then we'll keep
> sucking oil from non-home sources.

Hurt level depends on wealth and income. If gas double in price, I would
still go where i want to go. But there are people who can't afford to go
where they want to go now. What I think we will see happening is that the
economy will slow down because poor people can't afford to buy as much and
the price of plastics and other petroleum-based goods will go up. In
addition, people will start buying more fuel-efficent cars in the next few
years, if the gas prices don't fall back to less than $2.00 per gallon. Very
few people will rush to trade in their SUVs for small cars, but when the
time comes, more people will buy small cars (and some will even buy
hybrids).

Jeff

> Ron

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'm with you on the mass transit idea, the only problem being is that
> ours sucks! We are just to plain greedy to invest in a good idea. I was
> born in New York City where they did have the brains to invest in it
> and it works great! They did have their hard time in NYC but recovered
> nicely and it's one of the best transit systems in the world.

NYC's transit system does have some short comings, like the idiots who
manage it. In addition, it would be better if trains from NJ, upstate NY and
Conn. would go to more places than just Penn Station, Grand Central Station
and a few stops on the way.

In addition, there are some areas of NYC where the subways are not convient.
And more subways are needed to go to the upper east side and harlem.

But it is an excellent system.

NYC has millions of people. That is very helpful in making a functional
system. That is one reason why other smaller cities can't make a go of mass
transit.

Jeff

> Gerald
>

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145502907.943314.85140@j33g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm with you on the mass transit idea, the only problem being is that
> ours sucks! We are just to plain greedy to invest in a good idea. I was
> born in New York City where they did have the brains to invest in it
> and it works great! They did have their hard time in NYC but recovered
> nicely and it's one of the best transit systems in the world.

NYC's transit system does have some short comings, like the idiots who
manage it. In addition, it would be better if trains from NJ, upstate NY and
Conn. would go to more places than just Penn Station, Grand Central Station
and a few stops on the way.

In addition, there are some areas of NYC where the subways are not convient.
And more subways are needed to go to the upper east side and harlem.

But it is an excellent system.

NYC has millions of people. That is very helpful in making a functional
system. That is one reason why other smaller cities can't make a go of mass
transit.

Jeff

> Gerald
>

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145502907.943314.85140@j33g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm with you on the mass transit idea, the only problem being is that
> ours sucks! We are just to plain greedy to invest in a good idea. I was
> born in New York City where they did have the brains to invest in it
> and it works great! They did have their hard time in NYC but recovered
> nicely and it's one of the best transit systems in the world.

NYC's transit system does have some short comings, like the idiots who
manage it. In addition, it would be better if trains from NJ, upstate NY and
Conn. would go to more places than just Penn Station, Grand Central Station
and a few stops on the way.

In addition, there are some areas of NYC where the subways are not convient.
And more subways are needed to go to the upper east side and harlem.

But it is an excellent system.

NYC has millions of people. That is very helpful in making a functional
system. That is one reason why other smaller cities can't make a go of mass
transit.

Jeff

> Gerald
>

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Oils not the answer. We can drill for a long time to come. What is
needed is for the people to wake up and come up with free ideas and
more technology to make things more effiencent <Spelling, we were
warned in 1973 and we deceided to ingnore the warning COMPLETLY. We are
paying for ignorance. We the people have NOTHING to complain about. We
the people need to get our asses together<i think the fcc approved that
word for us. The energy companies are laughing their way, ALL THE WAY
TO THE BANK!

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Oils not the answer. We can drill for a long time to come. What is
needed is for the people to wake up and come up with free ideas and
more technology to make things more effiencent <Spelling, we were
warned in 1973 and we deceided to ingnore the warning COMPLETLY. We are
paying for ignorance. We the people have NOTHING to complain about. We
the people need to get our asses together<i think the fcc approved that
word for us. The energy companies are laughing their way, ALL THE WAY
TO THE BANK!

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Oils not the answer. We can drill for a long time to come. What is
needed is for the people to wake up and come up with free ideas and
more technology to make things more effiencent <Spelling, we were
warned in 1973 and we deceided to ingnore the warning COMPLETLY. We are
paying for ignorance. We the people have NOTHING to complain about. We
the people need to get our asses together<i think the fcc approved that
word for us. The energy companies are laughing their way, ALL THE WAY
TO THE BANK!

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Agreeed! The energy companies along with our wonderful White House that
will keep the people at bay. They do not want you to succeed. 500
million to an Exxon Mobil exec??? For what, for stealing from the
people... Incredibal!

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Agreeed! The energy companies along with our wonderful White House that
will keep the people at bay. They do not want you to succeed. 500
million to an Exxon Mobil exec??? For what, for stealing from the
people... Incredibal!

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Agreeed! The energy companies along with our wonderful White House that
will keep the people at bay. They do not want you to succeed. 500
million to an Exxon Mobil exec??? For what, for stealing from the
people... Incredibal!

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Did you really say 100 million? 100 million is only 1/5 of what that
Exxon Mobil guy will take home as a pension. FUNNY, we are talking
about the whole of the U.S., Canada, the world to be a better place to
live and work. The GOV, needs to spend a couple more bucks to put these
plants in a couple more backyards. Cleanly! The coal commericals on TV
are very good and they have come along way but at the same time I hope
they spend as much on saftey as they do on getting reserves out of the
ground. The Men and Women doing this job for our life styles need to be
backed up with our dollars for a futurist safe envirorment. They don't
have it now.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Did you really say 100 million? 100 million is only 1/5 of what that
Exxon Mobil guy will take home as a pension. FUNNY, we are talking
about the whole of the U.S., Canada, the world to be a better place to
live and work. The GOV, needs to spend a couple more bucks to put these
plants in a couple more backyards. Cleanly! The coal commericals on TV
are very good and they have come along way but at the same time I hope
they spend as much on saftey as they do on getting reserves out of the
ground. The Men and Women doing this job for our life styles need to be
backed up with our dollars for a futurist safe envirorment. They don't
have it now.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Did you really say 100 million? 100 million is only 1/5 of what that
Exxon Mobil guy will take home as a pension. FUNNY, we are talking
about the whole of the U.S., Canada, the world to be a better place to
live and work. The GOV, needs to spend a couple more bucks to put these
plants in a couple more backyards. Cleanly! The coal commericals on TV
are very good and they have come along way but at the same time I hope
they spend as much on saftey as they do on getting reserves out of the
ground. The Men and Women doing this job for our life styles need to be
backed up with our dollars for a futurist safe envirorment. They don't
have it now.

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Well I don't beleive that much. There was a town in Texas what during
the early 1900's that fell victim to a storm also. I wish I could
remember the name now, Agausta comes to mind. They got nuked by mother
nature also but they came back to rebuild but they build something that
could almost not be knocked down. New Orleans needs to do the same
project but with the engineers and also add to this idea would be to
get the envirorment to work as it had sice the 1700's or before. The
current system is and was a joke for many years. A better idea would
put many people to work and save history in my view. Yes they need to
deal with the wetland problem, it is because the screwed this idea up
that they had as big a problem as they did last year. Yeah.. a little
crazy tonight...

Gerald

Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
 

Well I don't beleive that much. There was a town in Texas what during
the early 1900's that fell victim to a storm also. I wish I could
remember the name now, Agausta comes to mind. They got nuked by mother
nature also but they came back to rebuild but they build something that
could almost not be knocked down. New Orleans needs to do the same
project but with the engineers and also add to this idea would be to
get the envirorment to work as it had sice the 1700's or before. The
current system is and was a joke for many years. A better idea would
put many people to work and save history in my view. Yes they need to
deal with the wetland problem, it is because the screwed this idea up
that they had as big a problem as they did last year. Yeah.. a little
crazy tonight...

Gerald