We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you contention?
mike hunt
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you are
>> free to do your own search to find what I found.
>
> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>
> Jeff
>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:T7O1g.6371$Es3.782@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:qxSdnSZaXJJwONrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> Think about it. If one can not pump any more gasoline through the
>>>> distribution system because the demand is cut in half, one does not
>>>> have any tanks left to store the gasoline, that comes out of a barrel
>>>> of oil before one get to the really profitable carbon products, what do
>>>> you think they will have to do with the gasoline?
>>>
>>> I didn't ask you to think about it. I asked for evidence.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> mike hunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4yC1g.9166$i41.2725@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> newsSadnXMgH7CpW9vZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>>> That is a good idea, the only problem is it will not solve the
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> It will reduce the INCREASE in the amount of oil we import but not
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> need for the fast amounts of crude we use to fuel the various
>>>>>> economies of
>>>>>> the world. Gasoline is only a small part of why we need to import
>>>>>> crude.
>>>>
>>>>>> If every
>>>>>> vehicle in the US miraculously got twice as many miles per gallon
>>>>>> some day
>>>>>> we would still need crude for it carbon stocks and the excess
>>>>>> gasoline
>>>>>> would simply be burned off at the refineries, as it was before it
>>>>>> became a
>>>>>> motor fuel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please give us evidence that excess gasoline would just be burned off.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, before it became a motor fuel? That was when? In 1896?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
mike hunt
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:sDydnYSWAdwOKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you are
>> free to do your own search to find what I found.
>
> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>
> Jeff
>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:T7O1g.6371$Es3.782@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:qxSdnSZaXJJwONrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> Think about it. If one can not pump any more gasoline through the
>>>> distribution system because the demand is cut in half, one does not
>>>> have any tanks left to store the gasoline, that comes out of a barrel
>>>> of oil before one get to the really profitable carbon products, what do
>>>> you think they will have to do with the gasoline?
>>>
>>> I didn't ask you to think about it. I asked for evidence.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> mike hunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4yC1g.9166$i41.2725@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> newsSadnXMgH7CpW9vZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>>> That is a good idea, the only problem is it will not solve the
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> It will reduce the INCREASE in the amount of oil we import but not
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> need for the fast amounts of crude we use to fuel the various
>>>>>> economies of
>>>>>> the world. Gasoline is only a small part of why we need to import
>>>>>> crude.
>>>>
>>>>>> If every
>>>>>> vehicle in the US miraculously got twice as many miles per gallon
>>>>>> some day
>>>>>> we would still need crude for it carbon stocks and the excess
>>>>>> gasoline
>>>>>> would simply be burned off at the refineries, as it was before it
>>>>>> became a
>>>>>> motor fuel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please give us evidence that excess gasoline would just be burned off.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, before it became a motor fuel? That was when? In 1896?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#227
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
I certainly do not take the time to proof read, if my automatic spell
checker is satisfied as I type, I'm satisfied.
My degree is in Metallurgy, not Petrochemicals I only know what I read on
that subject. If you have a source that indicates something other than the
figures I found and quoted, please post it. I am always willing to be more
enlightened on any subject. If my source was incorrect I will direct my
source to your source so they can argue which is correct. Until then I
could not care less whether you chose believe what I posted, or not. If it
is two three of four barrels it makes no difference, gasoline is still just
one more byproduct that must be sold to a willing buyer, stored or disposed
of, in some manner to continue running the refinery to produce the product
that can be sold or stored.
mike hunt
Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iBY1g.6573$Es3.2204@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:wj2dnTsa0OKRKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I don't do home work for my grandchildren, what makes you believe I would
>>do yours?
>
> I am not suggesting that you do my work. Rather, that you do your work: be
> sure of your facts before you post them.
>
>> You are free to believe whatever you choose. You need not do a search to
>> learn the fasts to do so.
>
> The fasts? That was during lent.
>
> Fast seems an accurate word. Fast as in write whatever you think is true
> without doing the work of verifying the info you post.
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5bO1g.6373$Es3.5816@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XRydnX6uBsboP9rZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
>>>> gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would
>>>> need to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..
>>>
>>> Could you please provide evidence that it takes four barrels of oil to
>>> produce one barrel of gasoline?
>>>
>>> You keep coming up with "facts" like the one about how only a small
>>> fraction of crude oil is converted to gasoline that don't seem to fit
>>> with reality. Perhaps this is another.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
checker is satisfied as I type, I'm satisfied.
My degree is in Metallurgy, not Petrochemicals I only know what I read on
that subject. If you have a source that indicates something other than the
figures I found and quoted, please post it. I am always willing to be more
enlightened on any subject. If my source was incorrect I will direct my
source to your source so they can argue which is correct. Until then I
could not care less whether you chose believe what I posted, or not. If it
is two three of four barrels it makes no difference, gasoline is still just
one more byproduct that must be sold to a willing buyer, stored or disposed
of, in some manner to continue running the refinery to produce the product
that can be sold or stored.
mike hunt
Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iBY1g.6573$Es3.2204@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:wj2dnTsa0OKRKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I don't do home work for my grandchildren, what makes you believe I would
>>do yours?
>
> I am not suggesting that you do my work. Rather, that you do your work: be
> sure of your facts before you post them.
>
>> You are free to believe whatever you choose. You need not do a search to
>> learn the fasts to do so.
>
> The fasts? That was during lent.
>
> Fast seems an accurate word. Fast as in write whatever you think is true
> without doing the work of verifying the info you post.
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5bO1g.6373$Es3.5816@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XRydnX6uBsboP9rZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
>>>> gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would
>>>> need to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..
>>>
>>> Could you please provide evidence that it takes four barrels of oil to
>>> produce one barrel of gasoline?
>>>
>>> You keep coming up with "facts" like the one about how only a small
>>> fraction of crude oil is converted to gasoline that don't seem to fit
>>> with reality. Perhaps this is another.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#228
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
I certainly do not take the time to proof read, if my automatic spell
checker is satisfied as I type, I'm satisfied.
My degree is in Metallurgy, not Petrochemicals I only know what I read on
that subject. If you have a source that indicates something other than the
figures I found and quoted, please post it. I am always willing to be more
enlightened on any subject. If my source was incorrect I will direct my
source to your source so they can argue which is correct. Until then I
could not care less whether you chose believe what I posted, or not. If it
is two three of four barrels it makes no difference, gasoline is still just
one more byproduct that must be sold to a willing buyer, stored or disposed
of, in some manner to continue running the refinery to produce the product
that can be sold or stored.
mike hunt
Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iBY1g.6573$Es3.2204@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:wj2dnTsa0OKRKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I don't do home work for my grandchildren, what makes you believe I would
>>do yours?
>
> I am not suggesting that you do my work. Rather, that you do your work: be
> sure of your facts before you post them.
>
>> You are free to believe whatever you choose. You need not do a search to
>> learn the fasts to do so.
>
> The fasts? That was during lent.
>
> Fast seems an accurate word. Fast as in write whatever you think is true
> without doing the work of verifying the info you post.
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5bO1g.6373$Es3.5816@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XRydnX6uBsboP9rZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
>>>> gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would
>>>> need to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..
>>>
>>> Could you please provide evidence that it takes four barrels of oil to
>>> produce one barrel of gasoline?
>>>
>>> You keep coming up with "facts" like the one about how only a small
>>> fraction of crude oil is converted to gasoline that don't seem to fit
>>> with reality. Perhaps this is another.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
checker is satisfied as I type, I'm satisfied.
My degree is in Metallurgy, not Petrochemicals I only know what I read on
that subject. If you have a source that indicates something other than the
figures I found and quoted, please post it. I am always willing to be more
enlightened on any subject. If my source was incorrect I will direct my
source to your source so they can argue which is correct. Until then I
could not care less whether you chose believe what I posted, or not. If it
is two three of four barrels it makes no difference, gasoline is still just
one more byproduct that must be sold to a willing buyer, stored or disposed
of, in some manner to continue running the refinery to produce the product
that can be sold or stored.
mike hunt
Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iBY1g.6573$Es3.2204@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:wj2dnTsa0OKRKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I don't do home work for my grandchildren, what makes you believe I would
>>do yours?
>
> I am not suggesting that you do my work. Rather, that you do your work: be
> sure of your facts before you post them.
>
>> You are free to believe whatever you choose. You need not do a search to
>> learn the fasts to do so.
>
> The fasts? That was during lent.
>
> Fast seems an accurate word. Fast as in write whatever you think is true
> without doing the work of verifying the info you post.
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5bO1g.6373$Es3.5816@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XRydnX6uBsboP9rZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
>>>> gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would
>>>> need to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..
>>>
>>> Could you please provide evidence that it takes four barrels of oil to
>>> produce one barrel of gasoline?
>>>
>>> You keep coming up with "facts" like the one about how only a small
>>> fraction of crude oil is converted to gasoline that don't seem to fit
>>> with reality. Perhaps this is another.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#229
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
I certainly do not take the time to proof read, if my automatic spell
checker is satisfied as I type, I'm satisfied.
My degree is in Metallurgy, not Petrochemicals I only know what I read on
that subject. If you have a source that indicates something other than the
figures I found and quoted, please post it. I am always willing to be more
enlightened on any subject. If my source was incorrect I will direct my
source to your source so they can argue which is correct. Until then I
could not care less whether you chose believe what I posted, or not. If it
is two three of four barrels it makes no difference, gasoline is still just
one more byproduct that must be sold to a willing buyer, stored or disposed
of, in some manner to continue running the refinery to produce the product
that can be sold or stored.
mike hunt
Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iBY1g.6573$Es3.2204@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:wj2dnTsa0OKRKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I don't do home work for my grandchildren, what makes you believe I would
>>do yours?
>
> I am not suggesting that you do my work. Rather, that you do your work: be
> sure of your facts before you post them.
>
>> You are free to believe whatever you choose. You need not do a search to
>> learn the fasts to do so.
>
> The fasts? That was during lent.
>
> Fast seems an accurate word. Fast as in write whatever you think is true
> without doing the work of verifying the info you post.
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5bO1g.6373$Es3.5816@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XRydnX6uBsboP9rZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
>>>> gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would
>>>> need to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..
>>>
>>> Could you please provide evidence that it takes four barrels of oil to
>>> produce one barrel of gasoline?
>>>
>>> You keep coming up with "facts" like the one about how only a small
>>> fraction of crude oil is converted to gasoline that don't seem to fit
>>> with reality. Perhaps this is another.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
checker is satisfied as I type, I'm satisfied.
My degree is in Metallurgy, not Petrochemicals I only know what I read on
that subject. If you have a source that indicates something other than the
figures I found and quoted, please post it. I am always willing to be more
enlightened on any subject. If my source was incorrect I will direct my
source to your source so they can argue which is correct. Until then I
could not care less whether you chose believe what I posted, or not. If it
is two three of four barrels it makes no difference, gasoline is still just
one more byproduct that must be sold to a willing buyer, stored or disposed
of, in some manner to continue running the refinery to produce the product
that can be sold or stored.
mike hunt
Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iBY1g.6573$Es3.2204@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:wj2dnTsa0OKRKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I don't do home work for my grandchildren, what makes you believe I would
>>do yours?
>
> I am not suggesting that you do my work. Rather, that you do your work: be
> sure of your facts before you post them.
>
>> You are free to believe whatever you choose. You need not do a search to
>> learn the fasts to do so.
>
> The fasts? That was during lent.
>
> Fast seems an accurate word. Fast as in write whatever you think is true
> without doing the work of verifying the info you post.
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5bO1g.6373$Es3.5816@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XRydnX6uBsboP9rZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> That makes since it take four barrels of crude to produce one barrel of
>>>> gasoline, but it is still a byproduct of the refining process and would
>>>> need to be burned off at the refinery is not consumed..
>>>
>>> Could you please provide evidence that it takes four barrels of oil to
>>> produce one barrel of gasoline?
>>>
>>> You keep coming up with "facts" like the one about how only a small
>>> fraction of crude oil is converted to gasoline that don't seem to fit
>>> with reality. Perhaps this is another.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#230
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the process
>competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative fuels
>just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>
>
>mike hunt
>
>
Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
other high cost solutions.
Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
higher taxes.
later,
tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>
>
>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145595224.588709.196260@i40g2000cwc.googleg roups.com...
>> This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
>> one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the process
>competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative fuels
>just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>
>
>mike hunt
>
>
Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
other high cost solutions.
Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
higher taxes.
later,
tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>
>
>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145595224.588709.196260@i40g2000cwc.googleg roups.com...
>> This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
>> one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>
#231
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the process
>competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative fuels
>just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>
>
>mike hunt
>
>
Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
other high cost solutions.
Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
higher taxes.
later,
tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>
>
>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145595224.588709.196260@i40g2000cwc.googleg roups.com...
>> This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
>> one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the process
>competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative fuels
>just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>
>
>mike hunt
>
>
Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
other high cost solutions.
Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
higher taxes.
later,
tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>
>
>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145595224.588709.196260@i40g2000cwc.googleg roups.com...
>> This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
>> one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>
#232
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the process
>competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative fuels
>just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>
>
>mike hunt
>
>
Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
other high cost solutions.
Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
higher taxes.
later,
tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>
>
>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145595224.588709.196260@i40g2000cwc.googleg roups.com...
>> This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
>> one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the process
>competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative fuels
>just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>
>
>mike hunt
>
>
Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
other high cost solutions.
Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
higher taxes.
later,
tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>
>
>
>"gerald2003r" <gerald2003r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1145595224.588709.196260@i40g2000cwc.googleg roups.com...
>> This project really is a good idea but needs to be expanded way past
>> one plant.. It is real and we will all benifet.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>
#233
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
process
> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
fuels
> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
> >
> >mike hunt
>
> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> other high cost solutions.
>
> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> higher taxes.
>
> later,
>
> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
even cover the cost of the highway system.
If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
system and at least half of our military budget.
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> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
process
> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
fuels
> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
> >
> >mike hunt
>
> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> other high cost solutions.
>
> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> higher taxes.
>
> later,
>
> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
even cover the cost of the highway system.
If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
system and at least half of our military budget.
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
process
> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
fuels
> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
> >
> >mike hunt
>
> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> other high cost solutions.
>
> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> higher taxes.
>
> later,
>
> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
even cover the cost of the highway system.
If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
system and at least half of our military budget.
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> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
process
> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
fuels
> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
> >
> >mike hunt
>
> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> other high cost solutions.
>
> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> higher taxes.
>
> later,
>
> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
even cover the cost of the highway system.
If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
system and at least half of our military budget.
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
process
> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
fuels
> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
> >
> >mike hunt
>
> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> other high cost solutions.
>
> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> higher taxes.
>
> later,
>
> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
even cover the cost of the highway system.
If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
system and at least half of our military budget.
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> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
process
> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
fuels
> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
> >
> >mike hunt
>
> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> other high cost solutions.
>
> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> higher taxes.
>
> later,
>
> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
even cover the cost of the highway system.
If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
system and at least half of our military budget.
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