We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
#286
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
(top posting fixed)
>
> "st-bum" <kennykabuki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1145647051.102311.62260@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
> > The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
> > price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
> > "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
> >
>
Mike Hunter <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> I'll bet you are not a chemist but if you can figure out way to refine crude
> to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
> I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
> you could do it. LOL
>
> mike hunt
>
>
No, Mike. True, you can't "refine" it directly, but they already know how to
make what they need from the refined fractions. Your failure to acknowledge that
makes you either extremely ignorant, or a troll.
>
> "st-bum" <kennykabuki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1145647051.102311.62260@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
> > The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
> > price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
> > "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
> >
>
Mike Hunter <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:m9ycnY3jDKOSwNTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> I'll bet you are not a chemist but if you can figure out way to refine crude
> to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
> I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
> you could do it. LOL
>
> mike hunt
>
>
No, Mike. True, you can't "refine" it directly, but they already know how to
make what they need from the refined fractions. Your failure to acknowledge that
makes you either extremely ignorant, or a troll.
#287
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
the dollar
Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
You can think of it as a Pizza
There is one Pizza and several slices
The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
Just like what has happened with the oil
You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
for your exceesive livestyle
The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
a lot less amounts of dollars
One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
are overpriced and they are all over the world
The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
and you will see its worth decreasing
There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
Prepare for a heavy inflation
A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
value
The Corean war
The Vietnam war
The Afghan war
The Iraq war
and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
Best of luck
the dollar
Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
You can think of it as a Pizza
There is one Pizza and several slices
The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
Just like what has happened with the oil
You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
for your exceesive livestyle
The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
a lot less amounts of dollars
One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
are overpriced and they are all over the world
The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
and you will see its worth decreasing
There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
Prepare for a heavy inflation
A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
value
The Corean war
The Vietnam war
The Afghan war
The Iraq war
and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
Best of luck
#288
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
the dollar
Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
You can think of it as a Pizza
There is one Pizza and several slices
The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
Just like what has happened with the oil
You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
for your exceesive livestyle
The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
a lot less amounts of dollars
One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
are overpriced and they are all over the world
The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
and you will see its worth decreasing
There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
Prepare for a heavy inflation
A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
value
The Corean war
The Vietnam war
The Afghan war
The Iraq war
and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
Best of luck
the dollar
Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
You can think of it as a Pizza
There is one Pizza and several slices
The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
Just like what has happened with the oil
You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
for your exceesive livestyle
The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
a lot less amounts of dollars
One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
are overpriced and they are all over the world
The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
and you will see its worth decreasing
There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
Prepare for a heavy inflation
A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
value
The Corean war
The Vietnam war
The Afghan war
The Iraq war
and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
Best of luck
#289
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
the dollar
Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
You can think of it as a Pizza
There is one Pizza and several slices
The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
Just like what has happened with the oil
You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
for your exceesive livestyle
The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
a lot less amounts of dollars
One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
are overpriced and they are all over the world
The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
and you will see its worth decreasing
There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
Prepare for a heavy inflation
A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
value
The Corean war
The Vietnam war
The Afghan war
The Iraq war
and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
Best of luck
the dollar
Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
You can think of it as a Pizza
There is one Pizza and several slices
The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
Just like what has happened with the oil
You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
for your exceesive livestyle
The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
a lot less amounts of dollars
One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
are overpriced and they are all over the world
The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
and you will see its worth decreasing
There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
Prepare for a heavy inflation
A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
value
The Corean war
The Vietnam war
The Afghan war
The Iraq war
and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
Best of luck
#290
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
In article <1145699225.556939.253930@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
> the dollar
> Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
> Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
> Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
> It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
> Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
> The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
>
> You can think of it as a Pizza
> There is one Pizza and several slices
> The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
> You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
> Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
> It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
>
> You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
> size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
>
> Just like what has happened with the oil
> You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
>
> The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
> for your exceesive livestyle
>
> The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
> a lot less amounts of dollars
>
> One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
>
> It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
> are overpriced and they are all over the world
>
> The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
> and you will see its worth decreasing
>
> There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
>
> A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
>
> Prepare for a heavy inflation
>
> A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
>
> The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
> value
>
> The Corean war
> The Vietnam war
> The Afghan war
> The Iraq war
>
> and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
> creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
>
> Best of luck
If what you say is true, then shouldn't the money market interest be
falling?
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
> the dollar
> Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
> Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
> Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
> It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
> Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
> The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
>
> You can think of it as a Pizza
> There is one Pizza and several slices
> The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
> You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
> Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
> It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
>
> You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
> size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
>
> Just like what has happened with the oil
> You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
>
> The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
> for your exceesive livestyle
>
> The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
> a lot less amounts of dollars
>
> One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
>
> It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
> are overpriced and they are all over the world
>
> The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
> and you will see its worth decreasing
>
> There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
>
> A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
>
> Prepare for a heavy inflation
>
> A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
>
> The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
> value
>
> The Corean war
> The Vietnam war
> The Afghan war
> The Iraq war
>
> and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
> creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
>
> Best of luck
If what you say is true, then shouldn't the money market interest be
falling?
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
#291
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
In article <1145699225.556939.253930@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
> the dollar
> Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
> Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
> Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
> It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
> Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
> The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
>
> You can think of it as a Pizza
> There is one Pizza and several slices
> The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
> You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
> Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
> It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
>
> You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
> size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
>
> Just like what has happened with the oil
> You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
>
> The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
> for your exceesive livestyle
>
> The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
> a lot less amounts of dollars
>
> One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
>
> It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
> are overpriced and they are all over the world
>
> The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
> and you will see its worth decreasing
>
> There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
>
> A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
>
> Prepare for a heavy inflation
>
> A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
>
> The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
> value
>
> The Corean war
> The Vietnam war
> The Afghan war
> The Iraq war
>
> and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
> creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
>
> Best of luck
If what you say is true, then shouldn't the money market interest be
falling?
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
> the dollar
> Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
> Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
> Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
> It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
> Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
> The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
>
> You can think of it as a Pizza
> There is one Pizza and several slices
> The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
> You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
> Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
> It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
>
> You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
> size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
>
> Just like what has happened with the oil
> You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
>
> The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
> for your exceesive livestyle
>
> The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
> a lot less amounts of dollars
>
> One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
>
> It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
> are overpriced and they are all over the world
>
> The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
> and you will see its worth decreasing
>
> There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
>
> A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
>
> Prepare for a heavy inflation
>
> A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
>
> The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
> value
>
> The Corean war
> The Vietnam war
> The Afghan war
> The Iraq war
>
> and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
> creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
>
> Best of luck
If what you say is true, then shouldn't the money market interest be
falling?
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
#292
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
In article <1145699225.556939.253930@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
> the dollar
> Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
> Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
> Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
> It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
> Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
> The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
>
> You can think of it as a Pizza
> There is one Pizza and several slices
> The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
> You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
> Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
> It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
>
> You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
> size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
>
> Just like what has happened with the oil
> You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
>
> The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
> for your exceesive livestyle
>
> The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
> a lot less amounts of dollars
>
> One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
>
> It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
> are overpriced and they are all over the world
>
> The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
> and you will see its worth decreasing
>
> There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
>
> A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
>
> Prepare for a heavy inflation
>
> A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
>
> The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
> value
>
> The Corean war
> The Vietnam war
> The Afghan war
> The Iraq war
>
> and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
> creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
>
> Best of luck
If what you say is true, then shouldn't the money market interest be
falling?
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of
> the dollar
> Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars
> Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road
> Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow
> It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed
> Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home
> The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
>
> You can think of it as a Pizza
> There is one Pizza and several slices
> The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar
> You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza
> Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars
> It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
>
> You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same
> size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
>
> Just like what has happened with the oil
> You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
>
> The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay
> for your exceesive livestyle
>
> The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for
> a lot less amounts of dollars
>
> One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
>
> It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars
> are overpriced and they are all over the world
>
> The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong
> and you will see its worth decreasing
>
> There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
>
> A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
>
> Prepare for a heavy inflation
>
> A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
>
> The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in
> value
>
> The Corean war
> The Vietnam war
> The Afghan war
> The Iraq war
>
> and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses
> creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
>
> Best of luck
If what you say is true, then shouldn't the money market interest be
falling?
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
#293
Guest
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:KKydnSGiyZcUEtTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> You are the one who has a problem with what I posted and you have yet to
> post any source that leads you to believe what I posted was not correct.
> I have not said you are wrong, I said I'm willing to look at where you got
> your information, I'm still waiting for you to show me were my source was
> wrong. One can only assume that apparently you are not able to do so
YOu got it *** backwards. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support
your claim. It is not up to me to disprove your claim.
Jeff
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:v3g2g.7015$Es3.386@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:4LqdnQTHhLeOa9XZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you
>>>contention?
>>
>> It is your contention that needs supporting. Yet you fail to do so.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7CY1g.6575$Es3.2294@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:sDydnYSWAdwOKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you
>>>>> are free to do your own search to find what I found.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>
>
#294
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:KKydnSGiyZcUEtTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> You are the one who has a problem with what I posted and you have yet to
> post any source that leads you to believe what I posted was not correct.
> I have not said you are wrong, I said I'm willing to look at where you got
> your information, I'm still waiting for you to show me were my source was
> wrong. One can only assume that apparently you are not able to do so
YOu got it *** backwards. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support
your claim. It is not up to me to disprove your claim.
Jeff
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:v3g2g.7015$Es3.386@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:4LqdnQTHhLeOa9XZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you
>>>contention?
>>
>> It is your contention that needs supporting. Yet you fail to do so.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7CY1g.6575$Es3.2294@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:sDydnYSWAdwOKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you
>>>>> are free to do your own search to find what I found.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>
>
#295
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:KKydnSGiyZcUEtTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> You are the one who has a problem with what I posted and you have yet to
> post any source that leads you to believe what I posted was not correct.
> I have not said you are wrong, I said I'm willing to look at where you got
> your information, I'm still waiting for you to show me were my source was
> wrong. One can only assume that apparently you are not able to do so
YOu got it *** backwards. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support
your claim. It is not up to me to disprove your claim.
Jeff
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:v3g2g.7015$Es3.386@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:4LqdnQTHhLeOa9XZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you
>>>contention?
>>
>> It is your contention that needs supporting. Yet you fail to do so.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7CY1g.6575$Es3.2294@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:sDydnYSWAdwOKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you
>>>>> are free to do your own search to find what I found.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>
>
#296
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:fNqcnUTkNsTO_dTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
> proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
> state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
> companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
> average state tax is .28c a gallon.
That's less than $0.01 per gallon. That's almost nothing.
> Some states like California also add their sales tax to gasoline in
> addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states add to your cost of food by
> taxing fuels used in farming. Search the Congressional Record and you
> will see the recent investigation of the oil industry, in by the House
> Energy Committee, showed the oil companies averaged around 15c a gallon
> and retailers .05c
Yet, according to Sen. Reid, oil companies make 50c to 75c per gallon of
gas.
http://reid.senate.gov/gasprices0504.cfm and the big oil companies saw their
profits go up by 44 to 294%! I am really happy that I invested in the oil
companies and related industrties.
In California, the price of refining and profits went from about $0.35 to
$0.40 in January 2002 to around $0.65 now. I guess that explains the record
profits the oil companies are making.
Jeff
> mike hunt
>
>
> "The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
> news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>> >process
>>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>> >fuels
>>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>>> >> >money.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >mike hunt
>>> >>
>>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> >> other high cost solutions.
>>> >>
>>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> >> higher taxes.
>>> >>
>>> >> later,
>>> >>
>>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>> >
>>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>>> >don't
>>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>> >
>>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>>
>>> Good point.
>>>
>>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>>> road maintenance.
>>
>> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>>
>> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
>> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
>> --
>> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>>
>> -- Vice President Al Gore
>
>
#297
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:fNqcnUTkNsTO_dTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
> proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
> state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
> companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
> average state tax is .28c a gallon.
That's less than $0.01 per gallon. That's almost nothing.
> Some states like California also add their sales tax to gasoline in
> addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states add to your cost of food by
> taxing fuels used in farming. Search the Congressional Record and you
> will see the recent investigation of the oil industry, in by the House
> Energy Committee, showed the oil companies averaged around 15c a gallon
> and retailers .05c
Yet, according to Sen. Reid, oil companies make 50c to 75c per gallon of
gas.
http://reid.senate.gov/gasprices0504.cfm and the big oil companies saw their
profits go up by 44 to 294%! I am really happy that I invested in the oil
companies and related industrties.
In California, the price of refining and profits went from about $0.35 to
$0.40 in January 2002 to around $0.65 now. I guess that explains the record
profits the oil companies are making.
Jeff
> mike hunt
>
>
> "The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
> news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>> >process
>>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>> >fuels
>>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>>> >> >money.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >mike hunt
>>> >>
>>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> >> other high cost solutions.
>>> >>
>>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> >> higher taxes.
>>> >>
>>> >> later,
>>> >>
>>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>> >
>>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>>> >don't
>>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>> >
>>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>>
>>> Good point.
>>>
>>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>>> road maintenance.
>>
>> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>>
>> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
>> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
>> --
>> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>>
>> -- Vice President Al Gore
>
>
#298
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:fNqcnUTkNsTO_dTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
> proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
> state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
> companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
> average state tax is .28c a gallon.
That's less than $0.01 per gallon. That's almost nothing.
> Some states like California also add their sales tax to gasoline in
> addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states add to your cost of food by
> taxing fuels used in farming. Search the Congressional Record and you
> will see the recent investigation of the oil industry, in by the House
> Energy Committee, showed the oil companies averaged around 15c a gallon
> and retailers .05c
Yet, according to Sen. Reid, oil companies make 50c to 75c per gallon of
gas.
http://reid.senate.gov/gasprices0504.cfm and the big oil companies saw their
profits go up by 44 to 294%! I am really happy that I invested in the oil
companies and related industrties.
In California, the price of refining and profits went from about $0.35 to
$0.40 in January 2002 to around $0.65 now. I guess that explains the record
profits the oil companies are making.
Jeff
> mike hunt
>
>
> "The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
> news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>> >process
>>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>> >fuels
>>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>>> >> >money.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >mike hunt
>>> >>
>>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> >> other high cost solutions.
>>> >>
>>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> >> higher taxes.
>>> >>
>>> >> later,
>>> >>
>>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>> >
>>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>>> >don't
>>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>> >
>>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>>
>>> Good point.
>>>
>>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>>> road maintenance.
>>
>> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>>
>> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
>> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
>> --
>> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>>
>> -- Vice President Al Gore
>
>
#299
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
Precisely the point, you made a claim, I'm only asking you to prove it. I
merely quoted something I read, I made no claim. I even directed you to the
source for what I posted
mike hunt
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dap2g.11246$i41.7563@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>
.. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support your claim.
> Jeff
>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:v3g2g.7015$Es3.386@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4LqdnQTHhLeOa9XZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you
>>>>contention?
>>>
>>> It is your contention that needs supporting. Yet you fail to do so.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> mike hunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7CY1g.6575$Es3.2294@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:sDydnYSWAdwOKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you
>>>>>> are free to do your own search to find what I found.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>>
>>
>
>
merely quoted something I read, I made no claim. I even directed you to the
source for what I posted
mike hunt
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dap2g.11246$i41.7563@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>
.. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support your claim.
> Jeff
>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:v3g2g.7015$Es3.386@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4LqdnQTHhLeOa9XZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you
>>>>contention?
>>>
>>> It is your contention that needs supporting. Yet you fail to do so.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> mike hunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7CY1g.6575$Es3.2294@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:sDydnYSWAdwOKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you
>>>>>> are free to do your own search to find what I found.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>>
>>
>
>
#300
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
Precisely the point, you made a claim, I'm only asking you to prove it. I
merely quoted something I read, I made no claim. I even directed you to the
source for what I posted
mike hunt
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dap2g.11246$i41.7563@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>
.. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support your claim.
> Jeff
>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:v3g2g.7015$Es3.386@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4LqdnQTHhLeOa9XZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you
>>>>contention?
>>>
>>> It is your contention that needs supporting. Yet you fail to do so.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> mike hunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7CY1g.6575$Es3.2294@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:sDydnYSWAdwOKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you
>>>>>> are free to do your own search to find what I found.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>>
>>
>
>
merely quoted something I read, I made no claim. I even directed you to the
source for what I posted
mike hunt
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dap2g.11246$i41.7563@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>
.. When you make a claim, it is up to you to support your claim.
> Jeff
>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:v3g2g.7015$Es3.386@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4LqdnQTHhLeOa9XZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you
>>>>contention?
>>>
>>> It is your contention that needs supporting. Yet you fail to do so.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> mike hunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7CY1g.6575$Es3.2294@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:sDydnYSWAdwOKdrZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>>>> I'm sorry that logic escapes you but if you really want to know, you
>>>>>> are free to do your own search to find what I found.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, you are unwilling or unable to back your words.
>>
>>
>
>