We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
#256
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
> >process
> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
> >fuels
> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
> >> >
> >> >mike hunt
> >>
> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> >> other high cost solutions.
> >>
> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> >> higher taxes.
> >>
> >> later,
> >>
> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
> >
> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
> >
> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>
> Good point.
>
> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> road maintenance.
It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
> >process
> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
> >fuels
> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
> >> >
> >> >mike hunt
> >>
> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> >> other high cost solutions.
> >>
> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> >> higher taxes.
> >>
> >> later,
> >>
> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
> >
> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
> >
> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>
> Good point.
>
> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> road maintenance.
It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
#257
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
I'll bet you are not a chemist but if you can figure out way to refine crude
to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
you could do it. LOL
mike hunt
"st-bum" <kennykabuki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145647051.102311.62260@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
> The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
> price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
> "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
>
to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
you could do it. LOL
mike hunt
"st-bum" <kennykabuki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145647051.102311.62260@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
> The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
> price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
> "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
>
#258
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
I'll bet you are not a chemist but if you can figure out way to refine crude
to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
you could do it. LOL
mike hunt
"st-bum" <kennykabuki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145647051.102311.62260@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
> The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
> price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
> "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
>
to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
you could do it. LOL
mike hunt
"st-bum" <kennykabuki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145647051.102311.62260@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
> The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
> price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
> "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
>
#259
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
I'll bet you are not a chemist but if you can figure out way to refine crude
to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
you could do it. LOL
mike hunt
"st-bum" <kennykabuki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145647051.102311.62260@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
> The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
> price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
> "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
>
to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles,
I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how
you could do it. LOL
mike hunt
"st-bum" <kennykabuki@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145647051.102311.62260@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out.
> The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the
> price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't
> "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
>
#260
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
mike hunt
"The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>> >process
>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>> >fuels
>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>> >> >money.
>> >> >
>> >> >mike hunt
>> >>
>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>> >> other high cost solutions.
>> >>
>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>> >> higher taxes.
>> >>
>> >> later,
>> >>
>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>> >
>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>> >don't
>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>> >
>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>> road maintenance.
>
> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>
> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> --
> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>
> -- Vice President Al Gore
proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
mike hunt
"The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>> >process
>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>> >fuels
>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>> >> >money.
>> >> >
>> >> >mike hunt
>> >>
>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>> >> other high cost solutions.
>> >>
>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>> >> higher taxes.
>> >>
>> >> later,
>> >>
>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>> >
>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>> >don't
>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>> >
>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>> road maintenance.
>
> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>
> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> --
> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>
> -- Vice President Al Gore
#261
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
mike hunt
"The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>> >process
>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>> >fuels
>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>> >> >money.
>> >> >
>> >> >mike hunt
>> >>
>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>> >> other high cost solutions.
>> >>
>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>> >> higher taxes.
>> >>
>> >> later,
>> >>
>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>> >
>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>> >don't
>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>> >
>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>> road maintenance.
>
> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>
> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> --
> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>
> -- Vice President Al Gore
proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
mike hunt
"The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>> >process
>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>> >fuels
>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>> >> >money.
>> >> >
>> >> >mike hunt
>> >>
>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>> >> other high cost solutions.
>> >>
>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>> >> higher taxes.
>> >>
>> >> later,
>> >>
>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>> >
>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>> >don't
>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>> >
>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>> road maintenance.
>
> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>
> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> --
> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>
> -- Vice President Al Gore
#262
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
mike hunt
"The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>> >process
>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>> >fuels
>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>> >> >money.
>> >> >
>> >> >mike hunt
>> >>
>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>> >> other high cost solutions.
>> >>
>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>> >> higher taxes.
>> >>
>> >> later,
>> >>
>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>> >
>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>> >don't
>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>> >
>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>> road maintenance.
>
> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>
> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> --
> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>
> -- Vice President Al Gore
proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
mike hunt
"The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>> >process
>> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>> >fuels
>> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
>> >> >money.
>> >> >
>> >> >mike hunt
>> >>
>> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>> >> other high cost solutions.
>> >>
>> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>> >> higher taxes.
>> >>
>> >> later,
>> >>
>> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>> >
>> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
>> >don't
>> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
>> >
>> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>> >system and at least half of our military budget.
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
>> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
>> road maintenance.
>
> It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
>
> We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> --
> "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
>
> -- Vice President Al Gore
#263
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
That was most likely was placate those Senator and Congressmen that were
opposed to giving US taxpayers money to buyers of hybrid vehicles to be
passed on to foreign companies that sell hybrids at premium price, that do
not themselves pay federal corporate income taxes.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
>>"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>process
>>> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>fuels
>>> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>>> >
>>> >mike hunt
>>>
>>> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> other high cost solutions.
>>>
>>> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> higher taxes.
>>>
>>> later,
>>>
>>> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>
>>What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
>>even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>
>>If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>system and at least half of our military budget.
>
> Good point.
>
> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> road maintenance.
>
>
opposed to giving US taxpayers money to buyers of hybrid vehicles to be
passed on to foreign companies that sell hybrids at premium price, that do
not themselves pay federal corporate income taxes.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
>>"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>process
>>> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>fuels
>>> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>>> >
>>> >mike hunt
>>>
>>> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> other high cost solutions.
>>>
>>> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> higher taxes.
>>>
>>> later,
>>>
>>> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>
>>What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
>>even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>
>>If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>system and at least half of our military budget.
>
> Good point.
>
> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> road maintenance.
>
>
#264
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Posts: n/a
Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
That was most likely was placate those Senator and Congressmen that were
opposed to giving US taxpayers money to buyers of hybrid vehicles to be
passed on to foreign companies that sell hybrids at premium price, that do
not themselves pay federal corporate income taxes.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
>>"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>process
>>> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>fuels
>>> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>>> >
>>> >mike hunt
>>>
>>> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> other high cost solutions.
>>>
>>> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> higher taxes.
>>>
>>> later,
>>>
>>> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>
>>What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
>>even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>
>>If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>system and at least half of our military budget.
>
> Good point.
>
> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> road maintenance.
>
>
opposed to giving US taxpayers money to buyers of hybrid vehicles to be
passed on to foreign companies that sell hybrids at premium price, that do
not themselves pay federal corporate income taxes.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
>>"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>process
>>> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>fuels
>>> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>>> >
>>> >mike hunt
>>>
>>> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> other high cost solutions.
>>>
>>> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> higher taxes.
>>>
>>> later,
>>>
>>> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>
>>What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
>>even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>
>>If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>system and at least half of our military budget.
>
> Good point.
>
> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> road maintenance.
>
>
#265
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
That was most likely was placate those Senator and Congressmen that were
opposed to giving US taxpayers money to buyers of hybrid vehicles to be
passed on to foreign companies that sell hybrids at premium price, that do
not themselves pay federal corporate income taxes.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
>>"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>process
>>> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>fuels
>>> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>>> >
>>> >mike hunt
>>>
>>> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> other high cost solutions.
>>>
>>> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> higher taxes.
>>>
>>> later,
>>>
>>> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>
>>What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
>>even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>
>>If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>system and at least half of our military budget.
>
> Good point.
>
> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> road maintenance.
>
>
opposed to giving US taxpayers money to buyers of hybrid vehicles to be
passed on to foreign companies that sell hybrids at premium price, that do
not themselves pay federal corporate income taxes.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>
>>"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
>>news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
>>process
>>> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
>>fuels
>>> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save money.
>>> >
>>> >mike hunt
>>>
>>> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
>>> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
>>> other high cost solutions.
>>>
>>> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
>>> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
>>> higher taxes.
>>>
>>> later,
>>>
>>> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
>>
>>What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes don't
>>even cover the cost of the highway system.
>>
>>If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
>>system and at least half of our military budget.
>
> Good point.
>
> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> road maintenance.
>
>
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Top-posting idiot Mike Hunter wrote:
>Why not post a source that disputes what was posted before making a personal
>attack?
Maybe, "Mike", because you're a troll and a known liar, and you
routinely make claims and then refuse to back them up. Nothing you
say can be trusted.
>Why not post a source that disputes what was posted before making a personal
>attack?
Maybe, "Mike", because you're a troll and a known liar, and you
routinely make claims and then refuse to back them up. Nothing you
say can be trusted.
#267
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Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
Top-posting idiot Mike Hunter wrote:
>Why not post a source that disputes what was posted before making a personal
>attack?
Maybe, "Mike", because you're a troll and a known liar, and you
routinely make claims and then refuse to back them up. Nothing you
say can be trusted.
>Why not post a source that disputes what was posted before making a personal
>attack?
Maybe, "Mike", because you're a troll and a known liar, and you
routinely make claims and then refuse to back them up. Nothing you
say can be trusted.
#268
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Posts: n/a
Re: We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant
Top-posting idiot Mike Hunter wrote:
>Why not post a source that disputes what was posted before making a personal
>attack?
Maybe, "Mike", because you're a troll and a known liar, and you
routinely make claims and then refuse to back them up. Nothing you
say can be trusted.
>Why not post a source that disputes what was posted before making a personal
>attack?
Maybe, "Mike", because you're a troll and a known liar, and you
routinely make claims and then refuse to back them up. Nothing you
say can be trusted.
#269
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Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
In article <fNqcnUTkNsTO_dTZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
> proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
> state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
> companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
> average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
> their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
> add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
> Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
> industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
> averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
>
> mike hunt
Exactly Mike. IF the dimmies get in control they will tax the feel good
crowd while giving them high honors for conserving, also a little pat on
the rump, LOL.
For me increased gas prices don't have much of an impact because I don't
drive that much any more. I either walk or ride a bike for short trips,
it's much more healthy anyway. BTW, if the socialists do gain control,
we'll have absolutely nothing to worry about. They will build huge
amounts of condominiums and force those of us who have our own home and
property out and into condos. This, the socialists say will be more
efficient and tax friendly, for them. LOL.
>
>
> "The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
> news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> > Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> >> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
> >> >process
> >> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
> >> >fuels
> >> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
> >> >> >money.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >mike hunt
> >> >>
> >> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> >> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> >> >> other high cost solutions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> >> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> >> >> higher taxes.
> >> >>
> >> >> later,
> >> >>
> >> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
> >> >
> >> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
> >> >don't
> >> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
> >> >
> >> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
> >> >system and at least half of our military budget.
> >>
> >> Good point.
> >>
> >> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> >> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> >> road maintenance.
> >
> > It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
> >
> > We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> > economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> > --
> > "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
> >
> > -- Vice President Al Gore
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
> proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
> state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
> companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
> average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
> their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
> add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
> Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
> industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
> averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
>
> mike hunt
Exactly Mike. IF the dimmies get in control they will tax the feel good
crowd while giving them high honors for conserving, also a little pat on
the rump, LOL.
For me increased gas prices don't have much of an impact because I don't
drive that much any more. I either walk or ride a bike for short trips,
it's much more healthy anyway. BTW, if the socialists do gain control,
we'll have absolutely nothing to worry about. They will build huge
amounts of condominiums and force those of us who have our own home and
property out and into condos. This, the socialists say will be more
efficient and tax friendly, for them. LOL.
>
>
> "The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
> news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> > Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> >> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
> >> >process
> >> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
> >> >fuels
> >> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
> >> >> >money.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >mike hunt
> >> >>
> >> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> >> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> >> >> other high cost solutions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> >> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> >> >> higher taxes.
> >> >>
> >> >> later,
> >> >>
> >> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
> >> >
> >> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
> >> >don't
> >> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
> >> >
> >> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
> >> >system and at least half of our military budget.
> >>
> >> Good point.
> >>
> >> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> >> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> >> road maintenance.
> >
> > It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
> >
> > We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> > economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> > --
> > "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
> >
> > -- Vice President Al Gore
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
#270
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: The are Buildlng a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant in PA
In article <fNqcnUTkNsTO_dTZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
> proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
> state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
> companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
> average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
> their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
> add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
> Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
> industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
> averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
>
> mike hunt
Exactly Mike. IF the dimmies get in control they will tax the feel good
crowd while giving them high honors for conserving, also a little pat on
the rump, LOL.
For me increased gas prices don't have much of an impact because I don't
drive that much any more. I either walk or ride a bike for short trips,
it's much more healthy anyway. BTW, if the socialists do gain control,
we'll have absolutely nothing to worry about. They will build huge
amounts of condominiums and force those of us who have our own home and
property out and into condos. This, the socialists say will be more
efficient and tax friendly, for them. LOL.
>
>
> "The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
> news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> > Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> >> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
> >> >process
> >> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
> >> >fuels
> >> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
> >> >> >money.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >mike hunt
> >> >>
> >> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> >> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> >> >> other high cost solutions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> >> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> >> >> higher taxes.
> >> >>
> >> >> later,
> >> >>
> >> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
> >> >
> >> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
> >> >don't
> >> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
> >> >
> >> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
> >> >system and at least half of our military budget.
> >>
> >> Good point.
> >>
> >> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> >> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> >> road maintenance.
> >
> > It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
> >
> > We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> > economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> > --
> > "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
> >
> > -- Vice President Al Gore
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> That can be easily accomplished, elect more democrats, they are very
> proficient at figuring ways to increase taxes. Currently the federal and
> state governments ALL make more per gallon on gasoline than do the oil
> companies or the retailers. The federal tax is .185c per gallon and the
> average state tax is .28c a gallon. Some states like California also add
> their sales tax to gasoline in addition to the motor fuel tax. Some states
> add to your cost of food by taxing fuels used in farming. Search the
> Congressional Record and you will see the recent investigation of the oil
> industry, in by the House Energy Committee, showed the oil companies
> averaged around 15c a gallon and retailers .05c
>
> mike hunt
Exactly Mike. IF the dimmies get in control they will tax the feel good
crowd while giving them high honors for conserving, also a little pat on
the rump, LOL.
For me increased gas prices don't have much of an impact because I don't
drive that much any more. I either walk or ride a bike for short trips,
it's much more healthy anyway. BTW, if the socialists do gain control,
we'll have absolutely nothing to worry about. They will build huge
amounts of condominiums and force those of us who have our own home and
property out and into condos. This, the socialists say will be more
efficient and tax friendly, for them. LOL.
>
>
> "The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
> news:Relaxand-B60771.16340321042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > In article <moci42lra55nf3tvkls793obmkj42b6ccr@4ax.com>,
> > Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:56:09 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Tom The Great" <Post@here.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:s83i42tlgvuba7aeq8aglq8kfg1qfjd04r@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:42:31 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> >> >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >That may well be if the price of crude get high enough to make the
> >> >process
> >> >> >competitive. Consumers are not going to buy higher cost alternative
> >> >fuels
> >> >> >just to save the planet. they will only do so when they can save
> >> >> >money.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >mike hunt
> >> >>
> >> >> Very true mike, that is why governments artificially inflate costs
> >> >> through taxation and regulation, to force us to either reduce, or use
> >> >> other high cost solutions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Example: High federal and state taxes on gasoline, that contribute
> >> >> zero to the finished product. Forcing us to buy smaller cars, or pay
> >> >> higher taxes.
> >> >>
> >> >> later,
> >> >>
> >> >> tom @ www.IRantAndRave.com
> >> >
> >> >What high federal and state taxes on gasoline are those? Gas taxes
> >> >don't
> >> >even cover the cost of the highway system.
> >> >
> >> >If gasoline was paying its way, the taxes on it would cover the highway
> >> >system and at least half of our military budget.
> >>
> >> Good point.
> >>
> >> The Commerce Department actually had the nerve to propose a special
> >> tax on hybrids because they might cause a drop in tax revenues for
> >> road maintenance.
> >
> > It's coming. There will be a tax on energy conserving vehicles.
> >
> > We cannot allow the dissipation of fuel tax money due to better fuel
> > economy vehicles, therefore we must tax them more.
> > --
> > "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
> >
> > -- Vice President Al Gore
--
"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-- Vice President Al Gore