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Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter" > <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > > >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including > >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe that > >national health coverage will be free, do you? > > No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone > has it. I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate details. Scary. -- |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter" > <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > > >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including > >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe that > >national health coverage will be free, do you? > > No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone > has it. I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate details. Scary. -- |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter" > <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > > >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including > >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe that > >national health coverage will be free, do you? > > No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone > has it. I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate details. Scary. -- |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well.... > > What is wrong with my economics? > > Economics I have had many teachers in and if you want to be added to > that list I would sure like to know what is wrong with it > > Unlike many others I am very willing to learn and not the least from > friendly, knowing people > Well, not so much your economics as the underlying assumptions...the social Economics are usually taught as a re-skin of Marxist theology under the same sort of thinking as Keynes used. Which is that you might assume one variable does not affect the other. Example being: that you can adjust inflation rate by raising taxes, which supposedly reduces demand thus price for discretionary spending. Which is, short term true but long term false as the earner will then adjust price/wage for inflation so as to maintain the profit or standard of living. All the above is not learned through classroom lecture but best from watching and remembering the effects after. > > Backyard Mechanic wrote: >> his Economics are bullshit! >> >> -- >> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price >> you pay..DEAL with it! > -- Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well.... > > What is wrong with my economics? > > Economics I have had many teachers in and if you want to be added to > that list I would sure like to know what is wrong with it > > Unlike many others I am very willing to learn and not the least from > friendly, knowing people > Well, not so much your economics as the underlying assumptions...the social Economics are usually taught as a re-skin of Marxist theology under the same sort of thinking as Keynes used. Which is that you might assume one variable does not affect the other. Example being: that you can adjust inflation rate by raising taxes, which supposedly reduces demand thus price for discretionary spending. Which is, short term true but long term false as the earner will then adjust price/wage for inflation so as to maintain the profit or standard of living. All the above is not learned through classroom lecture but best from watching and remembering the effects after. > > Backyard Mechanic wrote: >> his Economics are bullshit! >> >> -- >> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price >> you pay..DEAL with it! > -- Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well.... > > What is wrong with my economics? > > Economics I have had many teachers in and if you want to be added to > that list I would sure like to know what is wrong with it > > Unlike many others I am very willing to learn and not the least from > friendly, knowing people > Well, not so much your economics as the underlying assumptions...the social Economics are usually taught as a re-skin of Marxist theology under the same sort of thinking as Keynes used. Which is that you might assume one variable does not affect the other. Example being: that you can adjust inflation rate by raising taxes, which supposedly reduces demand thus price for discretionary spending. Which is, short term true but long term false as the earner will then adjust price/wage for inflation so as to maintain the profit or standard of living. All the above is not learned through classroom lecture but best from watching and remembering the effects after. > > Backyard Mechanic wrote: >> his Economics are bullshit! >> >> -- >> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price >> you pay..DEAL with it! > -- Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price you pay..DEAL with it! |
Re: GM still outsells Honda in 2006
Duh to borrow a phrase from Ronald Reagan: "There you go again," saying
things with seeming authority yet getting the facts wrong. Denso GLOBAL is the Japanese sales company that owns Denso. Japanese assemblers in the US buy from Denso GLOBAL because of Japanese tax laws that earn credit for Japanese corporations that buy form other Japanese corporations. Japan offers tax credits for exports and on capital returned to Japan . ;) mike hunt "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:YJyAg.10501$oz.9160@trnddc07... > Mike Hunter wrote: >> Denso Global is only a Japanese sales company. They buy parts made all >> over the world, but mostly in the far east. >> >> >> mike hunt > > > You are quite incorrect. Denso is one of the largest parts manufacturers > in the world. For decades they went by the name Nippondenso, but for > some reason shortened the name a few years back. > > To borrow a phrase from Ronald Reagan: "There you go again". By that I > mean saying things with seeming authority yet getting the facts wrong. You > remind me of a Marketing VP I used to work with. His favorite saying was: > "Often wrong, but never in doubt". > > John > > |
Re: GM still outsells Honda in 2006
Duh to borrow a phrase from Ronald Reagan: "There you go again," saying
things with seeming authority yet getting the facts wrong. Denso GLOBAL is the Japanese sales company that owns Denso. Japanese assemblers in the US buy from Denso GLOBAL because of Japanese tax laws that earn credit for Japanese corporations that buy form other Japanese corporations. Japan offers tax credits for exports and on capital returned to Japan . ;) mike hunt "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:YJyAg.10501$oz.9160@trnddc07... > Mike Hunter wrote: >> Denso Global is only a Japanese sales company. They buy parts made all >> over the world, but mostly in the far east. >> >> >> mike hunt > > > You are quite incorrect. Denso is one of the largest parts manufacturers > in the world. For decades they went by the name Nippondenso, but for > some reason shortened the name a few years back. > > To borrow a phrase from Ronald Reagan: "There you go again". By that I > mean saying things with seeming authority yet getting the facts wrong. You > remind me of a Marketing VP I used to work with. His favorite saying was: > "Often wrong, but never in doubt". > > John > > |
Re: GM still outsells Honda in 2006
Duh to borrow a phrase from Ronald Reagan: "There you go again," saying
things with seeming authority yet getting the facts wrong. Denso GLOBAL is the Japanese sales company that owns Denso. Japanese assemblers in the US buy from Denso GLOBAL because of Japanese tax laws that earn credit for Japanese corporations that buy form other Japanese corporations. Japan offers tax credits for exports and on capital returned to Japan . ;) mike hunt "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:YJyAg.10501$oz.9160@trnddc07... > Mike Hunter wrote: >> Denso Global is only a Japanese sales company. They buy parts made all >> over the world, but mostly in the far east. >> >> >> mike hunt > > > You are quite incorrect. Denso is one of the largest parts manufacturers > in the world. For decades they went by the name Nippondenso, but for > some reason shortened the name a few years back. > > To borrow a phrase from Ronald Reagan: "There you go again". By that I > mean saying things with seeming authority yet getting the facts wrong. You > remind me of a Marketing VP I used to work with. His favorite saying was: > "Often wrong, but never in doubt". > > John > > |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
mike hunt "Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com... > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter" > <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > >>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including >>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe >>that >>national health coverage will be free, do you? > > No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone > has it. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
mike hunt "Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com... > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter" > <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > >>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including >>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe >>that >>national health coverage will be free, do you? > > No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone > has it. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
mike hunt "Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com... > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter" > <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > >>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including >>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe >>that >>national health coverage will be free, do you? > > No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone > has it. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
And yet the Europeans have a real hard time with patrolling its back
yard and who has to the rescue? You're allowed only one guess... JT Gosi wrote: > > Taxation on petrol has prompted new technology to go away from petrol > and thus promoted smaller cars, bigger trains and better economy > > US could do well emulating Europe > > Europe has been improving a lot its transport system over the last > decades and not the least because of controlled taxation by taxing > petrol and promoting alternatives > > Market economy with lots of interventions by the governments in health > care and unemployment benefits has created a very good balance and a > strong middle class > > The high unemployment rates are mainly in former east areas and results > of former centralised controled governments > > The production per manhours is much higher in Europe than in the US > > The norm is for 6 weeks paid vacations, many countries 35 hour work > weeks, not unusual around 50 year pension schemes > > The underground economy where people pay each other without letting the > government know is also quite high so the overall economy is much > better than the official figures show > > Unemployed people, people on holidays, medical benefits or pensions are > often working and paid with black money giving extra strenght to the > economy > > The US could learn a lot from Europe but they do not because they think > they know it all > > Mike Hunter wrote: > > Excessive taxation slows economic growth. Hence the poor economic growth in > > Europe, over the past ten years or so, and the high unemployment rates. > > Free medical is anything but free. Surly you do not want the US to emulate > > Europe? ;) > > > > mike hunt > > > > > > "Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1154635278.346045.298700@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > > Mike Hunter wrote: > > >> Why do you think gas cost > > >> $6 or more in Europe and they have a VAT tax? > > > > > > In order to promote good transport systems and it is working > > > |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
And yet the Europeans have a real hard time with patrolling its back
yard and who has to the rescue? You're allowed only one guess... JT Gosi wrote: > > Taxation on petrol has prompted new technology to go away from petrol > and thus promoted smaller cars, bigger trains and better economy > > US could do well emulating Europe > > Europe has been improving a lot its transport system over the last > decades and not the least because of controlled taxation by taxing > petrol and promoting alternatives > > Market economy with lots of interventions by the governments in health > care and unemployment benefits has created a very good balance and a > strong middle class > > The high unemployment rates are mainly in former east areas and results > of former centralised controled governments > > The production per manhours is much higher in Europe than in the US > > The norm is for 6 weeks paid vacations, many countries 35 hour work > weeks, not unusual around 50 year pension schemes > > The underground economy where people pay each other without letting the > government know is also quite high so the overall economy is much > better than the official figures show > > Unemployed people, people on holidays, medical benefits or pensions are > often working and paid with black money giving extra strenght to the > economy > > The US could learn a lot from Europe but they do not because they think > they know it all > > Mike Hunter wrote: > > Excessive taxation slows economic growth. Hence the poor economic growth in > > Europe, over the past ten years or so, and the high unemployment rates. > > Free medical is anything but free. Surly you do not want the US to emulate > > Europe? ;) > > > > mike hunt > > > > > > "Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1154635278.346045.298700@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > > Mike Hunter wrote: > > >> Why do you think gas cost > > >> $6 or more in Europe and they have a VAT tax? > > > > > > In order to promote good transport systems and it is working > > > |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
And yet the Europeans have a real hard time with patrolling its back
yard and who has to the rescue? You're allowed only one guess... JT Gosi wrote: > > Taxation on petrol has prompted new technology to go away from petrol > and thus promoted smaller cars, bigger trains and better economy > > US could do well emulating Europe > > Europe has been improving a lot its transport system over the last > decades and not the least because of controlled taxation by taxing > petrol and promoting alternatives > > Market economy with lots of interventions by the governments in health > care and unemployment benefits has created a very good balance and a > strong middle class > > The high unemployment rates are mainly in former east areas and results > of former centralised controled governments > > The production per manhours is much higher in Europe than in the US > > The norm is for 6 weeks paid vacations, many countries 35 hour work > weeks, not unusual around 50 year pension schemes > > The underground economy where people pay each other without letting the > government know is also quite high so the overall economy is much > better than the official figures show > > Unemployed people, people on holidays, medical benefits or pensions are > often working and paid with black money giving extra strenght to the > economy > > The US could learn a lot from Europe but they do not because they think > they know it all > > Mike Hunter wrote: > > Excessive taxation slows economic growth. Hence the poor economic growth in > > Europe, over the past ten years or so, and the high unemployment rates. > > Free medical is anything but free. Surly you do not want the US to emulate > > Europe? ;) > > > > mike hunt > > > > > > "Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1154635278.346045.298700@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > > Mike Hunter wrote: > > >> Why do you think gas cost > > >> $6 or more in Europe and they have a VAT tax? > > > > > > In order to promote good transport systems and it is working > > > |
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