Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

"rmac" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:



>>
>> The US could learn a lot from Europe but they do not because they
>> think they know it all
>
> Let me guess - English is your second language? If not, you should
> find your high school English teacher and sue her for not doing her
> job.
>

Well, he's Finnish... but his English is a helluva lot better than most
Brits who post on the Soccer forums.

Lay off him, never mind his Economics are bullshit!

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

"rmac" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:



>>
>> The US could learn a lot from Europe but they do not because they
>> think they know it all
>
> Let me guess - English is your second language? If not, you should
> find your high school English teacher and sue her for not doing her
> job.
>

Well, he's Finnish... but his English is a helluva lot better than most
Brits who post on the Soccer forums.

Lay off him, never mind his Economics are bullshit!

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

"rmac" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:



>>
>> The US could learn a lot from Europe but they do not because they
>> think they know it all
>
> Let me guess - English is your second language? If not, you should
> find your high school English teacher and sue her for not doing her
> job.
>

Well, he's Finnish... but his English is a helluva lot better than most
Brits who post on the Soccer forums.

Lay off him, never mind his Economics are bullshit!

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:34:41 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Excessive taxation slows economic growth. Hence the poor economic
>>growth in Europe, over the past ten years or so, and the high
>>unemployment rates. Free medical is anything but free. Surly you do
>>not want the US to emulate Europe? ;)
>>
>>mike hunt
>
> Here is a question for you, Mike. What is the second richest country
> in the world that doesn't have nationalized health care?

Here's one for you... where do those folks who cant, or dont want to, wait
for their NHS number to come up typically go as an option?

What is the state of hospitals in the UK and Canada?

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:34:41 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Excessive taxation slows economic growth. Hence the poor economic
>>growth in Europe, over the past ten years or so, and the high
>>unemployment rates. Free medical is anything but free. Surly you do
>>not want the US to emulate Europe? ;)
>>
>>mike hunt
>
> Here is a question for you, Mike. What is the second richest country
> in the world that doesn't have nationalized health care?

Here's one for you... where do those folks who cant, or dont want to, wait
for their NHS number to come up typically go as an option?

What is the state of hospitals in the UK and Canada?

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:34:41 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Excessive taxation slows economic growth. Hence the poor economic
>>growth in Europe, over the past ten years or so, and the high
>>unemployment rates. Free medical is anything but free. Surly you do
>>not want the US to emulate Europe? ;)
>>
>>mike hunt
>
> Here is a question for you, Mike. What is the second richest country
> in the world that doesn't have nationalized health care?

Here's one for you... where do those folks who cant, or dont want to, wait
for their NHS number to come up typically go as an option?

What is the state of hospitals in the UK and Canada?

--
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
><mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe that
>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>
>No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>has it.

. . . remainder of the posting snipped fro brevity

Gordon,

The reasons that health care costs more in the USA boils down to 3
points:

1) The citizens of the US subsidize the health care of the rest of the
world. How? Easy - the R&D costs in drugs, medical appliances and
other medical devices invented and perfected here that are used
throughout the rest of the world. You need look no further than Canada
to see the results - the Canadian gov. demands that the drug companies
sell their drugs at the price the Canadian gov. demands they be sold
at, regardless of the real costs, or Canadian law allows the Canadian
gov. to expropraite the patent (which in the US would be a crime
called extortion). So the drug companies transfer their costs back to
the citizens of the USA.

2) The cost of our INSANE tort legal system. I don't think I need to
elaborate on this - folks far more learened that I am on the law have
already sliced that salami.

3) The stubborness of a lot of folks in the US (and at times I have to
include myself in this group) that do not pay enough attention to
preventative care. It nearly always costs more to fix something wrong
with a human if it is let go than if it is nipped while small.

I see the same thing every day with cars too. One of the oil filter
companies had a whole ad campaign built around that - the tag line of
the ad series was "pay me now or pay me BIG later".

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
><mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe that
>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>
>No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>has it.

. . . remainder of the posting snipped fro brevity

Gordon,

The reasons that health care costs more in the USA boils down to 3
points:

1) The citizens of the US subsidize the health care of the rest of the
world. How? Easy - the R&D costs in drugs, medical appliances and
other medical devices invented and perfected here that are used
throughout the rest of the world. You need look no further than Canada
to see the results - the Canadian gov. demands that the drug companies
sell their drugs at the price the Canadian gov. demands they be sold
at, regardless of the real costs, or Canadian law allows the Canadian
gov. to expropraite the patent (which in the US would be a crime
called extortion). So the drug companies transfer their costs back to
the citizens of the USA.

2) The cost of our INSANE tort legal system. I don't think I need to
elaborate on this - folks far more learened that I am on the law have
already sliced that salami.

3) The stubborness of a lot of folks in the US (and at times I have to
include myself in this group) that do not pay enough attention to
preventative care. It nearly always costs more to fix something wrong
with a human if it is let go than if it is nipped while small.

I see the same thing every day with cars too. One of the oil filter
companies had a whole ad campaign built around that - the tag line of
the ad series was "pay me now or pay me BIG later".

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
><mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe that
>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>
>No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>has it.

. . . remainder of the posting snipped fro brevity

Gordon,

The reasons that health care costs more in the USA boils down to 3
points:

1) The citizens of the US subsidize the health care of the rest of the
world. How? Easy - the R&D costs in drugs, medical appliances and
other medical devices invented and perfected here that are used
throughout the rest of the world. You need look no further than Canada
to see the results - the Canadian gov. demands that the drug companies
sell their drugs at the price the Canadian gov. demands they be sold
at, regardless of the real costs, or Canadian law allows the Canadian
gov. to expropraite the patent (which in the US would be a crime
called extortion). So the drug companies transfer their costs back to
the citizens of the USA.

2) The cost of our INSANE tort legal system. I don't think I need to
elaborate on this - folks far more learened that I am on the law have
already sliced that salami.

3) The stubborness of a lot of folks in the US (and at times I have to
include myself in this group) that do not pay enough attention to
preventative care. It nearly always costs more to fix something wrong
with a human if it is let go than if it is nipped while small.

I see the same thing every day with cars too. One of the oil filter
companies had a whole ad campaign built around that - the tag line of
the ad series was "pay me now or pay me BIG later".

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

English is about my 10th language

It would be good of you to point out my mistakes - I am always willing
to learn

I did not have an english teacher

I learn most my languages without the aid of teachers

The spellcheckers have been very helpful and living in the countries
too as well as frequent visits

Not to mention helpful hints from friendly people in newsgroups

rmac wrote:
> Let me guess - English is your second language? If not, you should find
> your high school English teacher and sue her for not doing her job.

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

English is about my 10th language

It would be good of you to point out my mistakes - I am always willing
to learn

I did not have an english teacher

I learn most my languages without the aid of teachers

The spellcheckers have been very helpful and living in the countries
too as well as frequent visits

Not to mention helpful hints from friendly people in newsgroups

rmac wrote:
> Let me guess - English is your second language? If not, you should find
> your high school English teacher and sue her for not doing her job.

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

English is about my 10th language

It would be good of you to point out my mistakes - I am always willing
to learn

I did not have an english teacher

I learn most my languages without the aid of teachers

The spellcheckers have been very helpful and living in the countries
too as well as frequent visits

Not to mention helpful hints from friendly people in newsgroups

rmac wrote:
> Let me guess - English is your second language? If not, you should find
> your high school English teacher and sue her for not doing her job.

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Well....

What is wrong with my economics?

Economics I have had many teachers in and if you want to be added to
that list I would sure like to know what is wrong with it

Unlike many others I am very willing to learn and not the least from
friendly, knowing people


Backyard Mechanic wrote:
> his Economics are bullshit!
>
> --
> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Well....

What is wrong with my economics?

Economics I have had many teachers in and if you want to be added to
that list I would sure like to know what is wrong with it

Unlike many others I am very willing to learn and not the least from
friendly, knowing people


Backyard Mechanic wrote:
> his Economics are bullshit!
>
> --
> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!

Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
 

Well....

What is wrong with my economics?

Economics I have had many teachers in and if you want to be added to
that list I would sure like to know what is wrong with it

Unlike many others I am very willing to learn and not the least from
friendly, knowing people


Backyard Mechanic wrote:
> his Economics are bullshit!
>
> --
> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!