Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net... > > > "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03... >> >> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05... >>> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings: >>> >>> 1) Toyota >>> 2) Honda >>> 3) Hyundai >>> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company) >> >> >> >> Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a >> piece of compared to anything Japaneese or American. >> > >> Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey >> of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike Oh, I haven't looked at anything new. I only buy what I can pay cash for. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net... > > > "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03... >> >> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05... >>> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings: >>> >>> 1) Toyota >>> 2) Honda >>> 3) Hyundai >>> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company) >> >> >> >> Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a >> piece of compared to anything Japaneese or American. >> > >> Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey >> of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike Oh, I haven't looked at anything new. I only buy what I can pay cash for. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
In article <SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike They also manufacture large cranes. Toyota is into forklifts. Honda makes lawnmowers. I read recently where Honda is going to begin building aircraft for small business. All three are surely making their mark. > > > "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03... > > > > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05... > >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings: > >> > >> 1) Toyota > >> 2) Honda > >> 3) Hyundai > >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company) > > > > > > > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. > > -- |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
In article <SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike They also manufacture large cranes. Toyota is into forklifts. Honda makes lawnmowers. I read recently where Honda is going to begin building aircraft for small business. All three are surely making their mark. > > > "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03... > > > > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05... > >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings: > >> > >> 1) Toyota > >> 2) Honda > >> 3) Hyundai > >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company) > > > > > > > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. > > -- |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
In article <SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike They also manufacture large cranes. Toyota is into forklifts. Honda makes lawnmowers. I read recently where Honda is going to begin building aircraft for small business. All three are surely making their mark. > > > "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03... > > > > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05... > >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings: > >> > >> 1) Toyota > >> 2) Honda > >> 3) Hyundai > >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company) > > > > > > > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. > > -- |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
In article <SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike They also manufacture large cranes. Toyota is into forklifts. Honda makes lawnmowers. I read recently where Honda is going to begin building aircraft for small business. All three are surely making their mark. > > > "Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03... > > > > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05... > >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings: > >> > >> 1) Toyota > >> 2) Honda > >> 3) Hyundai > >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company) > > > > > > > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. > > -- |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. I'm not ready to buy one but they have come a long way in the past few years. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. I'm not ready to buy one but they have come a long way in the past few years. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. I'm not ready to buy one but they have come a long way in the past few years. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. I'm not ready to buy one but they have come a long way in the past few years. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net... > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike My company has had 2 new Hyundais in the past year and I find that hard to believe. The initial quality to me was above the "Big" 3 but well behind Toyota and Honda. The Santa Fe and the Elantra we have, have many many small but annoying problems within the first 5000 miles. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net... > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike My company has had 2 new Hyundais in the past year and I find that hard to believe. The initial quality to me was above the "Big" 3 but well behind Toyota and Honda. The Santa Fe and the Elantra we have, have many many small but annoying problems within the first 5000 miles. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net... > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike My company has had 2 new Hyundais in the past year and I find that hard to believe. The initial quality to me was above the "Big" 3 but well behind Toyota and Honda. The Santa Fe and the Elantra we have, have many many small but annoying problems within the first 5000 miles. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:SoydnZn9GM8svkzZUSdV9g@ptd.net... > Hyundai recently outscored Toyota and Honda in a recent consumer survey of > initial quality, among new 2006 vehicle owners. > > > mike My company has had 2 new Hyundais in the past year and I find that hard to believe. The initial quality to me was above the "Big" 3 but well behind Toyota and Honda. The Santa Fe and the Elantra we have, have many many small but annoying problems within the first 5000 miles. |
Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
"Reasoned Insanity" <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:329Ag.14787$PO.7806@dukeread03... > > "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uH8Ag.3649$8v.1563@trnddc05... >> My prediction for the 2016 *retail* US sales rankings: >> >> 1) Toyota >> 2) Honda >> 3) Hyundai >> 4) GM-Ford (as a merged company) > > > > Why is Hyundai on the list? Everything I have seen made by them is a piece > of compared to anything Japaneese or American. > Hundai is a heck of a success story. Near death after selling a bunch of crappy cars, they turned things completely around in recent years. Don't give up on Ford or GM they can make a comeback. IMHO, their fist big step is making cars that appeal to younger people. All the teens want Hondas and Toyotas and probably continue buying them as they age. I've worked for the same emplyer for 17 years and know many people well. If they're not driving a Ford or GM truck, then it is a Toyota, Honda or Mazda. Many of the US passenger cars are older models. One minor trend is a couple of new Ford Fusions out in the lot. I find myself wanting a Toyota Yaris liftback. I find myself needing something with better mileage for daily driving (I need to keep the truck for hauling for my side business). Once I again, the American Automakers are asleep at the wheel. They don't produce anything that compares to the Yaris/Fit/Scion. Yes GM has the Aveo, but what's with the crappy fuel mileage? I looked at the Focus, but the design looks tired and boring after nearly 7 years. Next there's the Ranger compact truck. A decent, reliable vehicle that actually has some Japanese hardware in it, but Ford won't redesign years after it should have been and the "middle" engine is the anemic 3.0L V6 that gets SUV like gas milege and has less HP than many 4 bangers (like GMs new model). The 4L V6 is better after they gave it some more power a few years ago, but the full size truck mileage mumbers stink. Next there's GM that dumps the compact truck and intruduces a redesigned "midsized" pickup in the midst of higher gas prices. Fuel economy could be a bit better and it still gets the solid black dot treatment with CRs reliability score - just like the crappy S10 it replaced. Pontiac. Lets build cars that all the models look the same! Let's make the GTO a family appeal car. RIP new GTO. Sheesh. Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal. John |
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