Read this article boys, its a compairison of the new Honda Civic SI, Chevy Cobalt SS, VW Jetta GLI, Subaru WRX STi. i'll let you guys read the write up, but will leave those who are to lazy to read this quote. enjoy.

All four cars are great performers, more than willing to mix it up at high speeds, low speeds, and anything in between, and none is likely to disappoint its owner. The WRX's standard all-wheel drive-rare in this price range-and entertaining personality make it a fantastic choice, especially for those in the Snow Belt. The Jetta GLI is the most well-mannered competitor and perfect for the speed freak with a family, offering good rear-seat room and a large trunk. It's safe, too; the GLI matches the Si's six standard air bags and then goes a step further by offering optional rear-seat side bags. And although it felt the least cohesive, the Cobalt SS was the hot rod of our group-expected of a car bearing those storied initials.

The most complete car here, though, is the Honda Civic Si, due to its wonderful manners on both road and test course, its brilliant powertrain, and its tremendous value. Honda has atoned for the last-generation Si, which was unremarkable in nearly every way, and the Si badge is back on top of the hot-compact heap. Look for an Si sliding around a cul-de-sac near you soon.

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ars/index.html

Are you reffering to my post? lol , why would I have challenged civictegra90? Also I wanted to mention that Ludwick is right about some heavily modded civic's. I beat a 94 civic w/ B18C VTEC perf. exhaust, header, intake and other small mods. <-- that was a pretty close match even though he beat me 2 times I beat him the other 3. I won fair and square and the civic owner admitted he lost. So I take back what I said about beating "heavily modded civics".

Heres a picture of my ride about 2 weeks ago
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/3/9/3/4/43630301.JPG

Nice car man, one of the best ive seen.

if you really wanna race, its fine with me, ill race anyone, i dont care if i win or lose, its always fun. as I said tho the guy with the SS was a questionable driver. i live out near cobourg, so if ya wanna set a date pm me we'll set somethin up.

lmao, ya, the civic is so much better then the sti too. its , but these people have an obligation to praise the civic, because if they said the truth "heres another civic gen, same , who cares cause youll buy it anyways since all you zombies love to ride honda ...etc" then all hell would break lose.

Let me do some simple math for you,

94 civic, lets say DX, 2200lbs with a full tank
B18C Vtec stock 195hp

2006 Cobalt 2.2, 2800lbs with no gas and no driver
2.2 whatevertec, 145hp, but lets say your intake was bought in the land of oz and adds 10hp, soo


2200lb car with 195hp vs a 2800lb car with 155hp?

Was the other drive suffering a stroke? :bs:

I wouldnt make it up, But I know who the person is, and next time I race him I will post it on the net. along with the list of his mods, and some pictures of his car. Cool?

You plan on coming out closer towards Toronto? If so let me know when will set a race up. If not than let me know, I can prob. come out to Cobourg.

Please get this on video :) Id be interested in the outcome.

I agree with you. Gm's interior designs havent exactly been cutting edge, but recent cars have shown improvement. Every car offers certain compromises to sell at a given price point, so its a matter of choosing the car that offers the compromises that you can live with. Personally, I dont participate in any car shows, so I can live with a somewhat dated interior as long as I have a decent powertrain.

GM powerplants are among the most reliable in the world. As a testament to the reliability of GM powerplants, look at what powers police cruisers and taxi fleets. Those cars are on the road 24 hours a day in some cases through shift work, and go through what would qualify as "severe operating conditions"; frequent idling, stop and go traffic, frequent WOT use, etc. Want to know how frequently they are rebuilt? Almost never. My father used to own a cab business and we have had caprices and buick roadmasters with over 500,000 km's on the original motors. The same cant be said for the transmissions, though, which usually go south before then :)

video is clearly needed. Thats a nice cobalt you have, but there is NO WAY youre ripping heavily modded civics :lmao:



:smokin: Hopes and dreams must be running rampant on the forum :laugh: cause someone caught a case

I agree totally. ALL car companys esp HONDA use double platform cars , a few honda/acura models look identical. There is nothing wrong with this it actually keeps the costs down. I find with GM you get a decent blend of looks , reliability and price. Sure there are certain models that have issues and all, alote of swithches and eletcronics are also made in japan.

ok i doubt a ls civic will kill a SS supercharged
and i doubt that a stock 145 hp will kill a light ass honda with an integra engine. The people on this forum are so full of .

ABout the ****ing story from the automotive magazine... ok let me get this straight. they are comparing an STi to Si and SS....WTF STi is like one head above them and still oh miracle civic is the best ride of them all...

Man i have to agree, a stock cobalt isn't going to touch a modded civic. I remember my nephew when he was car shopping, he went to the GM dealer looking at 1998 Z24's with the 150hp, he asked the sales rep if it was faster then a 98 civic Si 127HP VTEC. The sales rep clearly said NO! But who gives a . This is for all of you who think the Cobalt is some new and totally refined chevy on the road. Its still the same POS!!!!!!!!!!! Wake the fcuk UP@!!!!!!!!!!!!

1998 Cavalier Z24
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11..._z24_coupe.jpg

2000 Cavalier Z24
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ch/2000z24.jpg

Chevy Cobalt
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...tch/cobalt.jpg


OH MY FCUKING GOD WHATS THE DIFFERENCE????????????????????????

Please help me.

Please keep in mind i'm at home and have had a couple to drink, so no offence LOL

you clearly had too much too drink cause cobalt doesnt look close like cavalier you dumb****.

and yes z24 will beat an si. GO ask some dealer reps some more.

I've only had 2 and a stock 1998 Z24 can NOT beat a stock 1998 Civic Si. wanna put your money where your mouth is??? My nephews still got his 98 civic. he'll race. Can you find a Z24 to race against? Its your turn. . .

Oh yea, are you blind???? Look at the 2 ****ing cars man. you can't be that hard in denial man. common man thats like me sayin the 96-98 civic aren't the same as the 99-01 civic.